{"id":4372,"date":"2011-06-04T10:51:42","date_gmt":"2011-06-04T00:51:42","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.fanningfamilyhistory.com\/?p=4372"},"modified":"2021-06-22T05:19:26","modified_gmt":"2021-06-22T05:19:26","slug":"fogarty-family-lisheenataggart-loughmore-west-co-tipperary-ireland","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/fanningfamilyhistory.com\/index.php\/2011\/06\/04\/fogarty-family-lisheenataggart-loughmore-west-co-tipperary-ireland\/","title":{"rendered":"Fogarty Family of Lisheenataggart Loughmore West Co Tipperary Ireland"},"content":{"rendered":"
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Map of Irish Counties<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n

William Fanning of Clondoty was married to Catherine Fogarty of Lisheenataggart in Loughmore West Parish Co Tipperary Ireland. Her father was Thomas Fogarty and her mother was Honoria Long. Her grandparents were Cornelius Fogarty and Catherine Birmingham.<\/p>\n

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William (Billy) Fanning and his wife Catherine Fanning nee Fogarty outside their house at Clondoty Co Tipperary<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n

Thomas\u00a0Fogarty did not have any sons so he bought the Clondoty property off his cousin, also called Thomas Fogarty, and gave it\u00a0to his daughter Catherine\u00a0and\u00a0son-in-law William Fanning.<\/p>\n

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Catherine Fanning nee Fogarty Clondoty<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n

William and Catherine Fanning raised their family of fifteen children at Clondoty.<\/p>\n

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Area north of Thurles Showing Clondoty, Clonomuckoge, Lisheenataggert and Lissaroon in Co TipperaryThese are Fogarty gravestone inscriptions from Loughmore Catholic Cemetery Co Tipperary\u00a0Ireland. I am not sure how many are related and what the relationships are as yet. Many of the Fogarty and Fanning records I need are not in the North Tipperary genealogy database. As I find traces\u00a0of\u00a0the Fogarty family of Lisheenataggart I will add them to this post. Anyone further info on them or leads would be much appreciated :<\/p>\n

Fogarty Catherine died 28.8.1862 aged 18 years, Cornelius died 3.9.1867 aged 27 years, Ellen died 9.6.1879 aged 28 years.\u00a0<\/span>Fogarty <\/strong>Catherine, erected by Cornelius Fogarty of Lisheenataggart in memory of his wife who died 3.2.1854 aged 74 years, the above Cornelius died 8.11.1868 aged 96 years.\u00a0<\/span>Fogarty Cornelius died 13.7.1774 aged 27 years.\u00a0<\/span>Fogarty Honoria, erected by Daniel Fogarty of Whitefield in memory of his wife who died 12.11.1912 aged 75 years, above Daniel died 12.2.1915 aged 74 years, his son Michael of Graigue, Drom died 3.4.1932 aged 57 years and his wife Alicia nee Looby died 15.10.1915 aged 87 years.\u00a0<\/span>Fogarty John Esq died 3.6.1927 aged 80 years, his wife Nannie, of Dublin died 24.7.1896. Michael of Lisheenatagart died 23.1.1935 aged 79 years, his wife Elizabeth died 8.2.1931 aged 68 years.\u00a0<\/span>Fogarty John, erected by Richard Fogarty in memory of his father John Fogarty of Kilrush who died 30.4.1904 aged 85 years and his sister Mary died 15.7.1896 aged 26 years, his mother Bridget died 15.3.1918 aged 78 years.\u00a0<\/span>Fogarty Michael and his wife Mary nee Hayes died 17.9.1925 and 18.12.1928 respectively, daughter Mary died 3.10.1909, Michael Fogarty of Skehane of Two Mile Borris died 27.6.1971 and his wife Bridget died 2.6.1987.\u00a0<\/span>Fogarty Mrs Thomas Fogarty of Lisheenataggart died 16.1.1874 aged 68 years, daughter Bridget died 13.5.1873 aged 25 years, her husband Thomas died 8.5.1892 aged 86 years.\u00a0<\/span>Fogarty Patrick and Mary, erected by Denis and William Fogarty of Loughmore in memory of their father and mother, Patrick died June 1863 aged 60 years, Mary died March 1915 aged 84 years, also their sister Mary May died 1875 aged 25 years and Sarah wife of William died May 1899 aged 40 years. Above William died 16.8.1921 aged 61 years, Denis died 26.11.1931 aged 76 years, his wife Mary died 21.5.1949, their daughter Kathleen died 12.6.1942 and their son Patrick died 1.12.1974.\u00a0<\/span>Fogarty Timothy of Lisheenatagart died 20.1.1887 aged 76 years, his wife Mary nee Hayes died 1.1.1885 aged 65 years, Eleen nee Carrick died 29.11.1986. John died 28.8.1987.\u00a0<\/span>Fogarty William of Longorchard, Templetouhy died 16.7.1970 aged 85 years, his wife Mary died 9.2.1958 aged 60 years, also his brother James died 21.3.1960 aged 60 years.\u00a0<\/span>Fogarty William of Templetuohy died 15.3.1964.\u00a0<\/span>Fogarty William, erected by Mrs Fogarty of Lisheenataggart in memory of her husband who died 22? And her son Thomas died 10.11.1893 aged 38 years and Mrs Fogarty died 29.1.1896 aged 80 years.\u00a0Fogarty<\/em><\/span><\/span>\u00a0William, erected by Mrs McDonald in memory of her father William Fogarty of Kilglooney who died 28.7.1873 aged 78 years, his wife Mary died 7.4.1862 aged 63? Years.<\/span>
\n<\/span>taken from\u00a0CEMETERY HEADSTONE TRANSCRIPTIONS IRELAND<\/a> <\/strong>by Sue Grieves\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n

The following pages are from “Loughmore Parish Index to Burials in Loughmore and<\/em> Templeree Graveyards<\/em>” which is in the Thurles Library in Co Tipperary.<\/p>\n

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Fogarty Graves in Loughmore Cemetery Co Tipperary<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n

Below are photos of some Fogarty graves in Loughmore Cemetery.<\/p>\n

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Tithe Applotment Books for Lisheenataggert 1827:<\/p>\n

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1827 Tithe Applotment Entry for Lisheenataggert. Connor being short for Cornelius<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n

Those who leased or owned property just before Sept 1849 in Lisheenataggart are listed in Griffiths Valuation for Loughmore West Parish:<\/span>\u00a0<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n

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Griffiths Valuation 1849 Lisheenataggart Co Tipperary Ireland<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n
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1901 Census Fogarty Lisheenataggert<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n
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1911 Census Fogarty Lisheenataggert<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n
Fogarty brothers in Jamaica<\/em><\/h5>\n
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Port Royal Kingston c1895<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n

I very recently was made aware that three Fogarty, Daniel, John and William, sons of Cornelius Fogarty and Catherine Birmingham went to Jamaica in the 1820’s, presumably to make their fortune.<\/p>\n

It looks as if William returned.\u00a0 I don’t have any information or records on John in Co Tipperary other than his Baptism, so he may well have stayed in Jamaica.<\/p>\n

The information below was kindly sent to me by Richard Osborne, a descendant of Daniel Fogarty:<\/p>\n

“Much of my knowledge about the history of my Fogarty line in Jamaica is thanks to the research of my fellow Fogarty descendant Carey Robinson, a Jamaican scholar and media man who also served for a time in the Jamaican foreign service (at the Jamaican embassy in Mexico, I recall). I have never met Carey in person but we have corresponded \u00a0(I\u2019m from the USA, and my only visit to Jamaica was before I knew about Carey, but during that trip I did meet other relatives I have in common with Carey and who also are descended from Daniel Fogarty and Daniel\u2019s daughter Mary Ann Fogarty Manhertz).<\/div>\n
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In particular, a draft book manuscript of Carey\u2019s (which I got from my cousin Olive Manhertz Bailey from England) summarized the information about our common family history, which I could corroborate independently or at least use as a clue to start down a new path always with such endeavors, some of Carey\u2019s details weren\u2019t quite correct but were close enough to point me in the right direction.<\/div>\n
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According to Carey\u2019s draft manuscript, the\u00a0two Fogarty brothers who emigrated with my ancestor Daniel from Tipperary to Jamaica some time in the 1820\u2019s were John and William (I haven\u2019t independently confirmed this and I\u2019m not sure how that matches up with the information you have compiled). I have read that there was emigration from Ireland to Jamaica at least since the time of Oliver Cromwell. In the 1820\u2019s, the mainstay of the Jamaican economy was sugar but coffee was also very lucrative, and the Fogarty brothers ended up growing coffee and working on coffee plantations in the Blue Mountain area (which is also broadly the region of Jamaica where they \u201cplanted\u201d their family trees).<\/div>\n
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Here are more details about the Fogartys in Jamaica, according to Carey Robinson:<\/div>\n
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Daniel and his brothers went to different parishes in the coffee-growing region of eastern Jamaica. John went to Portland Parish (location of Bremen Valley, where my Manhertz ancestors were originally from); William went to St. Andrew Parish; and Daniel settled in what was then St. David Parish (now the western part of St. Thomas Parish). Daniel planted coffee on Sherwood Forest estate in northern Saint David and supervised other nearby properties, probably near his brother John and Bremen Valley. Close to Sherwood Forest was a place called Mount Hybla, where a woman of African descent named Princess lived (the owner of the Mount Hybla estate was John Atkins, the Lord Mayor of London; I\u2019m not sure if he also owned Sherwood Forest but I saw a record indicating a connection between the two estates). In 1830, Princess gave birth to Daniel\u2019s daughter, Mary Ann Fogarty. A record I found reports that, in 1832, two-year-old Mary Ann, identified as a \u201cmulatto\u201d and the daughter of Princess, was living at Mount Hybla but that Princess had died by then. Carey Robinson wrote that Daniel \u201cwas delighted with the little girl\u201d and \u201ctook her to live at Sherwood Forest\u201d (but, based on the census record I found, apparently not immediately at birth – one possibly relevant fact is that slavery ended in Jamaica in 1834). Carey writes further that Mary Ann \u201cgrew up in [Daniel\u2019s] house, shared his table, sat with his guests and occupied a secure place under his roof . . . he sent her to school in Kingston where, among other things, she learned to sew.\u201d<\/div>\n
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Mary Ann had at least two brothers, not necessarily from the same mother: John William and Daniel II (my cousin Olive in England told me she recently connected with a descendant of John William Fogarty\u2019s daughter \u00a0Evelyn Fogarty: a woman named Sydney Robinson).<\/div>\n
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Daniel died on October 20, 1844 and was buried the next day in the old Roman Catholic cemetery on Orange Street in Kingston. Carey found the following record in the Roman Catholic archives in Jamaica: \u201c21st October, 1844, was buried in the Catholic Cemetery the body of Daniel Fogarty, late of the Parish of St. George, who departed this life on the 20th October, age 38. He was a native of Ireland.\u201d (Based on the Tipperary baptismal record, he would have actually been about 40 years old)<\/div>\n
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In 1851 in Kingston, at age 21, Mary Ann married my great-great grandfather, Joseph Manhertz, who was about 12 years her senior. Joseph got the Manhertz name from John (Johann) Michael Manhertz, the owner of the Bremen Valley estate where he grew up and was a slave in his youth until slavery was abolished in 1834. Johann Manhertz had Afro-German-Jamaican children but there is no indication of a biological connection between John Manhertz and Joseph. Joseph may have left Bremen Valley in about 1834 (when that estate went bankrupt) and found employment at the Sherwood Forest estate, where he worked with Daniel Fogarty and would have first met the young Mary Ann. Joseph had become a skilled carpenter and furniture maker (and later a small landowner and coffee planter himself) and, with his experience in the coffee business gained at Bremen Valley, was well equipped to work at Sherwood Forest.<\/div>\n
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In the class- and color-conscious society of 1850\u2019s colonial Jamaica, Mary Ann would have been regarded as marrying beneath her station, and her brothers swore to hunt down Joseph and take revenge. The newlyweds went to a remote part of St. Thomas Parish until the situation cooled down and then settled in what was then St. David Parish (now part of St. Thomas), living in a house built by Joseph that stood at least until the 1970s-1980s. They were well known for their skill as a craftsman and a seamstress and became small landholders and planters and respected leaders in their community. Their many descendants live in many corners of the globe, including Jamaica, Panama (where my dad was born), all parts of the US, Canada, England, Australia and Thailand.”<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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I’d love to hear from any other Jamaican Cornelius Fogarty descendants to add to this fascinating story.<\/div>\n
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Cornelius Fogarty Descendant Report 2015<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n

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