A branch of my Fanning family, the descendants of William Fannin and Sarah Ryan of Lissaroon, live in Lisdonowley in Moyne, Co Tipperary, Ireland.
Patrick Fanning (1809-1895) was a first cousin of my gggrandfather William Patrick Fanning, “Big Bill”, who emigrated to Victoria Australia in 1841 and settled at Bulla.
Patrick Fanning was the son of William Fanning and Hanera Cormick and was born about 1809 and died in 1895. He married Margaret Cantwell. I believe (can’t be 100% sure as parents’ names were not included in marriage records) that she was the daughter of Anthony Cantwell and Bridget Carroll of Ballyerk Moyne Co Tipperary.
In 1911 Johanna Fanning nee Shanahan was still living with her brother and his family. She was married for two years and had one child deceased. She was a domestic servant.
MICHAEL FANNING, farmer of Castletown. Father: William Fanning, also a farmer, married JOHANNA SHANAHAN of Lisdonowly in the Parish of Moyne on Feb 15 1885. Her father, a farmer, was John Shanahan. Witnesses were William Maher and Ellen Shanahan.
MOYNECEMETERY:1.Erected by MARGARET FANNING of Castletown to record the death of her dear husband WILLIAM FANNING who died 27th of January 1874 aged 78 years
the above Mrs Margaret Fanning who died Sept 10(?)_ aged 70(?)
and also her daughter JOHANNA FANNING
who died 2_th March 1871? Aged 28 YRS
her son MICHAEL who died October ? aged 48 Yrs ???0
and her son THOMAS who died 13th? Jan 1911? aged 72
her son PATRICK died 6th February 1919? Aged 38
2. Erected by JOHN SHANAHAN Lisdonowly in memory of his father JOHN SHANAHAN died 18th May 1869 Aged 3(?)6 Yrs
and his mother MARY died 20th March 1881 Aged 68 Years
His brother MICHAEL died 20th June 1886 Aged 25 Years
And two sisters who died in religion MRS JOHANNA FANNING NEE SHANAHAN died 5th Feb 1930 Aged 77 Years
Also MATHEW SHANAHAN died 12th March 1934 Aged 82 Years
The above JOHN SHANAHAN Died 23rd Jan 1937 Aged 80 years
His wife MARY died 30 March 1946
I don’t know if the Michael Fanning that Johanna Shanahan married was a related Fanning. I will follow this up as it is possible as the Lisdonowley Fannings were close neighbors.
Laurence was the son of Michael Fanning (1811-1878) and Catherine Ryan and was born at Lisaroon on 27 Oct 1874. He spent some time in America and made a number of trips back to Ireland before permanently settling in Bouladuff Co Tipperary.
Bouladuff is a village five miles from Thurles. It is also known as Inch and The Ragg. It is bounded by the Silvermine Mountains on the north west and by the Slieveardagh Hills on the southeast.
On the records at Ellis Island.org Laurence F. Fanning, aged 30, from Thurles arrived on the “Teutonic” on 25 May 1905. He was a US Citizen, occupation clerk. His final destination was 4659 State St Chicago and reason for journey was “returning home”. Port of departure was Queenstown (Cobh), Co Cork, Ireland.
At some point, Laurence returned to Ireland and then eloped with his cousin Bridget Fanning. There was such outrage that they went to America where Laurence worked as a barman.
They did return to live at Bouladuff. On the 1911 Census he is married to Bridget Fanning and has two children, Kathleen aged 2 and Michael 11 mths. He is listed as a farmer and a publican at Bouladuff near Thurles. On his son Michael’s birth record he is listed as a shopkeeper in Bouladuff. Kathleen was born in 1909 and Michael on 6 July 1910 in Bouladuff.
Memorial card for Laurence Fanning
Laurence and Bridget had two children, Michael (Micky) and Catherine (Kitty) Fanning.
Below is an article from the Nenagh Guardian relating to police investigating Fannings Pub in Bouladuff.
In 1950 Micky Fanning put the premises at Bouladuff up for sale:
Thomas Dwyer, aged 21 years, of Bouladuff Co Tipperary Ireland was shot dead by members of the R.I.C., the Black & Tans, on the morning of March 29 1920. His mother was Catherine Fanning of Lissaroon.
I was told by a relation that the family was so shattered by his murder that it was not spoken of for 40 years.
Bouladuff, also known as Inch and The Ragg is a village 5 miles outside of Thurles and 3 miles from Borrisoleigh.
In March of 1920 Constable Heany was shot in The Ragg and later died.
It is hard not to think that this death of the constable was not connected to the murder of Thomas Dwyer on 29 Mar the same year. The murder of Thomas Dwyer was reported in The Irish Times, March 30 1920:
“Our Thurles Correspondent telegraphed as follows last night- Bouladuff, a quiet little village four miles from Thurles, commonly known as The Ragg, was the scene of a terrible murder last night. The trouble started about 3.30. A group of men stood in the village street, when suddenly shots rang out, and the police charged and dispersed the people.
For some hours afterwards all was quiet.
At 12.30 five men knocked at the house of Thomas Dwyer, part of whose premises consist of a shop. Dwyer’s sister, Mrs Delaney, heard the knocking, and got up and asked-“Who is there?” “Friends” was the reply. “Is Tom inside?”. She suspected something was afoot, and told them through the keyhole that Tom was not in. They replied that they knew that he was, and that they would break in the door if it was not opened quickly.
Mrs Delaney, when interviewed to-day, said that she was terribly frightened. Her brother was in bed but a short time, having remained outside as he had a presentiment that he would be shot. He told them earlier the day that he feared that his end was near. She went to his room and told him about the men at the door. Returning to the door which the men were kicking, she had just turned the key when the five men burst in. Mrs Delaney screamed at their appearance. They wore false beards and masks, and they carried rifles. Brushing her roughly into the kitchen, one man covered her with a rifle, while the other four passed towards the room where her brother Thomas lay. The doomed man appeared at the door wearing his pants, with a lighted candle in his hand. The men appeared to know their man quite well, for the moment they got a glimpse of him they fired.
Dwyer fell mortally wounded, pierced by two bullets, one of which smashed the candlestick in two. While he lay on the ground one of the assassins said “Has he enough?” and another replied “Give him another,” so another shot was fired into the body. Dwyer gave a moan, and the murderers made off, first asking Mrs Delaney “Is there anybody else to be shot here.” They slammed the door, and while they were on the roadway outside the house they fired several shots apparently at random.
The screams of Mrs Delaney aroused the neighbours, who ran for a priest and a doctor. Father Hayes arrived in time to administer the last rites of the Church. Dr Power, Borrisoleigh, also came, and did all that he could, but Dwyer expired an hour after the shooting. Two men were seen running from the back of Dwyer’s house across the fields after the murder.”
An inquest was held and here is part of what was written in The Irish Times on March 31, 1920:
“The town of Thurles was quiet today, but evidence of recent disturbances were apparent in the shattered windows of a number of shops, and in the display of shutters as tokens of mourning for the young man, Thomas Dwyer, who met his death under such mysterious circumstances at Bouladuff……..The Ragg is a village containing not more than a dozen houses, three of which are licensed. It will be recalled that the hamlet came under public notice some weeks ago through the murder of a policeman named Heanue there on the 4th March. It was stated in evidence at the inquest on Constable Heanue that the men who fired the shots were absolute strangers to the locality. Bouladuff is on the main road between Thurles and Borrisoleigh, three miles from the latter town. The nearest police station to the village is Dovea, about a mile distant. Dwyer was a young man, about 21 years of age, and is described as having been industrious in his habits, and popular in the locality. The only other occupants of the house at the time that he was shot by the raiders were his widowed sister, Mrs Delaney, and her little daughter, and an invalid uncle………There are about 100 additional police on duty in Thurles to-night, those in the streets carrying carbines.”
Tom Dwyer was buried in Drom or Drum old Catholic Cemetery, Co Tipperary.
The funeral was reported in The Irish Times on April 1, 1920:
“Business was entirely suspended in the town of Thurles and the surrounding towns and villages today. All the shops in Thurles were closed, including the licensed houses, and a quiet, if anything, even more pronounced than that of the Sabbath prevailed. The suspension of business was intended as a demonstration of sympathy with the family of Thomas Dwyer, the young man who was shot dead at Bouladuff in the small hours of Monday morning last.
The funeral took place from the Roman Catholic Church at Inch, close to Bouladuff, at noon to-day. From an early hour a long string of vehicular and pedestrian traffic was proceeding along the six miles of highway between Thurles and Inch. Every single available vehicle in Thurles was pressed into service for the occasion. The direction of traffic, and of the day’s proceedings generally seemed to be in the hands of the Sein Fein Volunteers. Many of these Volunteers were in uniform, and wore belts and bandoliers, and haversacks. Squads of men in military formation marched along the road to Inch, and crowds of Volunteers were across the roadway at the approaches to Bouladuff. There was not a single policeman to be seen in the village or in its vicinity. At least two thousand Volunteers from all parts of North Tipperary and from further afield were concentrated at the scene. The number of vehicles, which came to participate in the funeral procession-traps, side-cars, and soforth-approached, if did not exceed, a thousand.
Shortly after noon the funeral procession started from Inch Church on its way to the cemetery at Drom, six miles away. Rain fell heavily for the most part of the journey. The procession was headed by a single company of the Irish Volunteers, most of them in uniform. On either side of the hearse marched a singlr file of Volunteers, while behind the hearse came three mourning coaches containing the chief mourners. There then marched a number of Irish Volunteer contingents, Sinn Fein Clubs, representativesof the Transport Workers’ Union, a party of young women of the Cumana na uBan, and a contingent of demobilised soldiers form the Thurles district. None of the Volunteers marching in the procession displayed any arms.
On its way to the cemetery the procession passed Dovea Police Barrack, but no demonstration of any kind was made. The doors of the barrack were closed, and the police remained inside while the cortege was passing. When the procession was about half-way on the road between Inch and Drom a Volunteer cyclist rode up to the leaders with the intelligence that a large party of military and police had occupied the Drom Cemeterty and its immediate vicinity. The leaders, however, decided to proceed on their way, and no alteration was made in the order of the procession. It appears that about an hour before the procession was due to arrive at Drom several military lorries drew up outside the cemetery. At the time a contingent of Volunteers was standing in the roadway apparently for the purpose of regulating the traffic when the funeral arrived. There were about one hundred soldiers and policemen, the former belonging to the Northampton Regiment, and the latter being in charge of District Inspector Wilson, Nenagh. The soldiers carried full military equipment, and the police were armed with carbines. This party entered the cemetery and took up various positions in parts of it, the military falling into line along the wall of the graveyard, and a party of police standing a short distance from the open grave. No incidents of an untoward nature occurred, and, though evidences of excitement were visible among the crowd, the impression commonly prevailed that the presence of the soldiers and police was for the purpose of preventing the firing of a volley over the grave, as had been done at the funeral of Mr. McCarthy on Monday last. No volley was fired, though it was subsequently stated that when, at the termination of the religious ceremony at the graveside, the military and the police had returned to Templemore, a party of Volunteers fired a volley over the grave. The prayers at the graveside were recited by Rev. Father Finn, and a Volunteer bugler sounded the “Last Post”. An officer of the Irish Volunteers delivered an oration at the graveside. After the funeral the crowd quietly dispersed.”
The Irish Times reported on March 31 1920:
Nenagh Guardian July 31 1920:
THE RAGG PUBLICHOUSE LOOTED
The Ragg, Thurles, was the scene of another outbreak by police on Saturday.
Four huge motor lorries filled with armed police left Thurles on Saturday at 6 p.m., cheering and discharging shots as they passed through the streets. They started from the police barrack, having it is stated come from Limerick on transfer back to Belfast via Dublin. They continued discharging shots as they dashed along, passing Killinan cemetery and Ballinashow. Arriving at Bouladuff, known as The Ragg, the four lorries halted at Dwyer’s public house, into which they rushed, brushed the attendant aside, and getting behind the counter each man helped himself to as much drink as he pleased. A quantity was consumed on the premises, and a great deal more was transferred to the lorries and not paid for.
When this had been done the party returned to the house, knocked all remaining bottles off the shelves with their rifles and then fired volley after volley for a considerable time through the ceiling.
After making the place a complete scene of wreckage they proceeded on their journey cheering. The only persons present at the time were an invalid man and his niece, Mrs Delaney, sister of the late Thomas Dwyer, the victim of The Ragg tragedy. The house has been repeatedly fired into since the shooting of Thomas Dwyer, and his sisters were so terrified as to leave the house derelict for some time, until they received an assurance from the authorities that they would receive no further molestation.
In the recently released witness accounts in the Bureau of Military History James Leahy of Nenagh, an active IRA member, describes what was happening with the Black and Tans and Police in and around Thurles in 1920. Leahy recounts the murder of Tom Dwyer and the events that followed.
Kathleen Dwyer (Mary Cath Dwyer) 1893-1952 was present the night of Thomas Dwyer’s murder. She was married to Mathew Joseph Delaney. He died in 1919. In 1921 Kathleen, as she was known as, married Denis Bannon. She and Denis ran the Post Office/Pub at Bouladuff.
The Ragg Bouladuff Tom Dwyer’s Plaque
There is also a bridge on the Mall River in Templemore Co Tipperary that has been named after Lieutenant Thomas O’Dwyer.
This is the earliest related Fanning residence that I have discovered being the property of William Fannin and Sarah Fannin nee Ryan who are buried in Ballycahill Cemetery Co Tipperary. William Fannin was born about 1731 and died 28 Jan 1801. Sarah Fannin was born c 1741and died 27 Nov 1817.
After William Fannin died in 1802 his eldest son William Fanning took over the property. He was married to Hanera Cormick. From William the property passed to his son Michael who was married to Catherine Ryan and from then to Thomas Fanning married to Johanna Bannon. The Bannons and Cormicks were Lissaroon neighbours. They did not have any children and so it was left to John Joseph Mullany his nephew and son of John Mullany and Bridget Fanning. The property is owned now by Bridget Fanning’s granddaughter.
Thomas and Johanna were the last Fannings to live at Lissaroon.
In the Nenagh Guardian 4 Feb 1984 there is an explanation of the road which cuts through Lissaroon. This was done in the 1840s. Delia Cullen told us this road was a real boon to the Fannings giving them direct access to Thurles.
When Michael originally had the property it was about 50 acres with an additional 45 acres of bog land next door. The lessor was Edward Maher. Then Maher took over the bog land. The total property was valued at 33 pounds in 1856 and 50 pounds in 1943.
In Griffith’s Valuation Lissaroon William Fannin is listed as occupier of a house, offices and land (44 acres 2 rods and 29 perches) the immediate lessor being Edward Maher. The no and letters of reference to the map are 11 ABa. William Fannin also occupies No 12 with John Cormack and others. This is a bog of 43 acres 3 rods 11 perches. Edward Maher is lessor.
Looking again at the 1901 Census for Lissaroon we can see that the number of families is less. In 1901 there are twelve families and in 1911 there are ten. The main families are the Purcells, Brolans, Fannings, McCormacks or Cormacks and Bannons and Ryans.
The House and Building Returns for 1901 describe Lissaroon as having six rooms, four windows, being made of either stone or brick or concrete and having a roof of thatch or wood. Descendants have confirmed that it had a thatched roof which became too expensive to upkeep and was replaced by a tin roof. In the 1911 census seven rooms are occupied by the Fannings.
The 1901 Return of Out-Offices and Farm-Steadings has the Fanning property at Lissaroon having two cow houses, one calf house, a piggery, fowl house, boiling room, barn and shed. A total of nine out-buildings. In the 1911 census there are eight out buildings: a stable, a dairy, cow house, fowl house, barn, turf house and shed.
In 1904 when the property was owned by Thomas Fanning a request was made for a labourer’s cottage to be erected on his lands at Lissaroon. This was part of the Thurles Labourers’ Cottage Scheme.
The Valuation Office have searched and between 1856-1863 12 ABC is occupied by Michael Fannon House Office and Land 45 acres 0 rods 8 perches, lessor is Edward Maher. The bog Ref no 13 was occupied by Michael Fannin and others but during this time it is taken over by Edward Maher in fee. Some lands were added to 12ABC about 7 acres. No exact dates are given.
1863-1866 12ABC occupied by Michael Fannon immediate lessor is Edward Maher about 51 acres. 1866-1876 12ABC still occupied by Michael Fannon House Offices and land of 52 acres 2 rods 7 perches. Immediate lessor is still Edward Maher. 1876-1883 12ABC change from Michael Fannin to Catherine Fannin probably in 1879 same amount of land. 1883-1893 12ABC occupied by Cath Fannin, same amount of land. 1893-1909 12ABC change hands from Catherine Fanning to Thomas Fanning in 1898. 1909-1929 8A 7A 12AaBC occupied by Thomas Fanning House Office Land. 1929-1967 7A 8A 9A 12AaBb 13B John J Mullany takes over the land from Thomas Fanning in 1939 he buys out the ground rent and now holds the land In Fee. Total land is 42 actres 16 rods.
John Joseph Mullany is Thomas Fanning’s nephew. 9A was added in 1943. His mother is Bridget Mullany nee Fanning. The Ratings Records from 1999 show Timothy Cullen as the occupier of 7A 8A 9A 12A Lissaroon In Fee. Area is 71 acres. As rates were abolished this is the last record they have. It has the rates being effective from 31/12/1988 which could be when the property changed hands.
Based on information in a 1978 letter by Archbishop O’Donnell to his nephew I think William Fannin and Sarah Ryan of Lissaroon are the grandparents of William Patrick Fanning, “Big Bill”, who emigrated to Australia in 1841 with his wife Catherine Hayes. It was described as a “prosperous Farm” in Archbishop O’Donnell’s letter to his nephew. The stone house on the left may be the original dwelling.
I recently heard from a woman who was born near Lissaroon and used to play in this house. This is part of what Mary wrote:
“There were a family living there over 50 years ago, called Meehans, but they only had the house rented or maybe they were related, I just don’t know. But no one lived there once the Meehan’s moved out. But I passed there last week and the house is still standing…….I was often in that house when a child as we used to play with the Meehan children, all I can remember of it was there was a stained panel of glass in the front door and that they had, if I remember right a walled back yard with a pear tree, and loads of trees in the front of the house, they are all gone now. I’m trying to remember how many rooms were in the house, I know there was two rooms of the kitchen, the kitchen, a parlour, and maybe there was another room of that, not sure.”
“I’m trying to remember, it is a long time ago, but I think there was a wall that went all around the house in front, coming up from the right hand side up the field in front of the house. I think it went all around the front over to the left hand side. There was a small gate and a path to the front door, and trees at both sides of the path and daffodils in the spring, and thats all I can remember. If I can meet Billy Cormick who lives just over the road he would maybe be able to help, I believe he is into history, and maybe may be able to tell me something. I want to ask him about my Lowry’s who move to Lissaroon for a while when they were evicted in 1849 and a relation of Billy’s was a sponsor for one of the Lowry kids. The stone building at the left hand side of the picture may have been the original house.”
More photos of Lisaroon taken in June 2010. The farm hasn’t been lived in for years.
Tithes (meaning a tenth) were levies collected in support of a church, which could be a single church or all churches of one faith. In Ireland from the 1500s to the 1800s, tithes were taxes on the agricultural system to support the Church of Ireland. Tithes made everyone cross, for many reasons. Those who were Catholic or Presbyterian resented the contribution to the established church. Land proprietors resented the impact of tithes on rents.
Tithes existed in Ireland as long ago as the 1100s, giving support to monasteries. The system that came to be resented so much was formalized in law in 1541. In 1736 legislation exempted pasture from the calculation so the burden fell upon farmers who cultivated the soil. Not all tithes went to the Church of Ireland; in 1832 a little over 15% went to “lay” (non-religious) tithe owners who acquired the right to collect tithes at the dissolution of the monasteries.
By the early 1800s resentment had become very serious. Tithes had been part of the cause of rural unrest in the late 1700s; in the 1830s, the disruptions came to be called the Tithe War. The campaign against tithes began in County Kilkenny and spread quickly to other counties. By 1833, more than half the tithes due in 22 counties had not been paid. Many landowners supported non-payment because legislation of 1823 restored pastureland to the calculation. The resistance became violent, and some deaths occurred among protestors and police.
Faced with an impossible situation, the authorities stopped trying to enforce payment and clergymen without income could apply for relief. In 1838 the tithe ceased to be paid by occupiers and landlords were levied a “rent charge.” The problem completely disappeared at the disestablishment of the Church of Ireland (1869).
The Tithe Composition Act, passed in 1823, set out the process by which the tithe was converted to a monetary payment due twice a year. Property value was assessed, meetings were held in parishes, and records made of all those who were to make the payments. These are the Tithe Applotment Books.
At the time of the Tithe War any clergyman applying for relief was required to report on the situation in his parish including the names of all those who had failed to pay–the tithe defaulters. Lists of roughly 30,000 defaulters survive. ” From Ancestry.com article by Sherry Irvine
Fanning, Fannin & Darmody Entries in the Co Tipperary Tithe Applotment Books : A-R-P = Acres, Rods & Perches (Irish) H, O, L, G = House, Office, Land, Garden.
Ballymurreen Civil Parish 1827, Thurles Poor Law Union: Joseph Fanning, Parkstown .
BruisCivil Parish 1832: Robert Fanning of Mount Bruis Townland.
Cordangan Civil Parish 1835: John Fannin of Lacken.
1834-1837 Daniel Darmody Kilfithmone, William Darmody Kilfithmone.
Civil Parish ofKilmurry 1834: Patrick Fanning Ballinamona Townland.
Parish ofKnockgraffon 1826 : Patrick (Mary) Fanning of Loughkent, William Fanning of Donegal.
Parish ofLoughmore West April 1827: Michael Darmody Ballybrista, Denis Darmody Killahara, Philip Darmody Killahara, Edward Fanning Carraig-Loughmore, John Fanning Clondoty.
Loughmore East of River Suir: Edw. Darmody Graiguefrehane, Nicholas Fanning Graiguefrehane, Michael Fanning Killenleigh.
Parish of Loughmore East otherwise Callabegs Earl of Carrick April 1825: John Fanen Gurthreagh, Patrick Fanen Skeogh, Patrick. Fanen Skeogh.
Civil Parish of Mora 1824: John Fanning of Ballanattin Upper.
Parish of Moyaliff 1837 : John Fanning, Rossmult.
MoycarkyCivil Parish 1829: Joseph Fannin, Drumgower, Lawrence Fannin, Graigue, William Fannin, Graigue, William Fannin Kilnoe.
Civil Parish of Moyne 1828: James Fanning of Moyne Temple, James Fanning of Lisdonolly.
Civil Parish ofNenagh 1828: Ned Fanning of Spout Road.
Tithe Applotments RoscreaCivil Parish, no date given:Ml Darmody Killavilla, Ml Darmody Killavilla, Ml Darmody Benaghmore District, Pierce Darmody, Pierce Darmody Benaghmore District , Pierce Darmody Carrick , Pierce Darmody Killavilla, Edwd Fanning Big Matt House District, Patt Fanning Ballychary, Patt Fanning Streamstown.
Parish ofTempleree c 1823: John Fanin Gurtadanagan
Civil Parish of Templtouhy 1815-1821: Richard Fanning of Lisdaleen
Tithe Applotment Entries 1833, Thurles Civil Parish: Casontown ? Edward Fanning, Brittas Road or North West Suburb, James Fanning Casontown, John Fanning Knockroe, John Fanning Tooreen, Michael Fanning Castle Hounie?, Michael Fanning Commons, Patk Fanning Bawntameena, Pat Fanning?, Bawntameena, Pat Fanning?
Parish ofUpperchurch c 1829/30: Jeremiah Darmody Moher.
Civil Parish of Inch: Edmond Fannin, farmer, Townland of Buckley Islands, 1831
Widow Burke alias Fannin, farmer, Inch, 1831
Edmond Callanan & John Cullinan, Upper Dovea.
Townland of Lissaroon: John Cormac, Patrick Banan, William Purcell, William Carroll, Patrick Ryan, William Fannin, farmer, Thomas Cormac, Edmond Purcell, John Purcell, William Purcell, Walter Purcel.
Civil Parish ofKilfithmone: Daniel Darmody 1831 Fishmoyne, William Darmody Ballinlonty 1831.
Civil Parish ofKilmurry1831, Patrick Fanning, farmer, Ballynamona .
Civil Parish ofThurles 1831: Michael Fanning, farmer, Thurles; Patrick Fanning, farmer, Thurles; Patrick Fanning, farmer, Seskin; John Fanning, farmer, Seskin; Michael Fanning, farmer, Leighmore (Loughmore?); Oliver Fanning, farmer, Race Course; Michael Fanning, farmer, Toureen.
Civil Parish ofMoycarkey 1831: William Fannin farmer, Kilno; Joseph Fannin, farmer, Drumgour; William Fannin, farmer, Grague.