Flynn – Fanning Family History

Ancestry Of Kate Brolan nee Fanning 1875-1952 of Co Tipperary Ireland and New York

Tracing the family in Co Tipperary Ireland of Catherine Brolan nee Fanning born Holycross Co Tipperary 1875 died New York 1952 and her connection to the Fannings of Lissaroon.

The story begins with Kate Fanning who married Michael Brolan, “Mick the tailor”, in Manhattan New York on 24 Oct 1909. Michael was from the townland of Lissaroon in Co Tipperary Ireland.

Katie arrived on the Coronia from Queenstown on 22 Sept 1909 and was 26 years old. They would have known each other and their families as they lived close to each other in Co Tipperary.

Michael was born on the 5th March 1875. His parents were Patrick Michael Brolan and Mary Banan. He had two uncles already in New York: Patrick Brolan who was in the US in 1850 and James Bannon who emigrated around 1869. His brother Patrick Michael born1880 arrived about 1900 and a sister, Agnes, in 1909.

I have been told by a Brolan descendant that Mick and his brother Patrick left Ireland because of their involvement in anti-British politics and that there was an incident on a bridge that led to them leaving.

The Brolans from Lissaroon are buried in Calvary Cemetery Queens New York across from the Fenian monument.

In Ireland there are quite a few Brolans buried in Inch Old Cemetery Magherareagh, Bouladuff Co Tipperary. The following Brolan headstone is from Historicgraves which gives GPS coordinates for this cemetery..

IHS

Erected By PATRICK BROLAN Lisaroon.
In Memory Of His Father MICHAEL
Who Died 14_TH Oct 1882 Aged 75
His Mother AGNES Died 3_RD March 1891 Aged 84
His Beloved Wife MARY Died 28_TH Aug 1924 Aged 85
And His Brother JOHN BROLAN Bouladuff
Died 27_TH Jan 1897 Aged 52
His Wife JULIA Died 31_ST Dec 1892 Aged 48
Their Daughter MARY Died 16_TH June 1897
Aged 16
And Their Baby Who Died Young

PRAY FOR THE SOUL
Of The Above PATERICK BROLAN
Died 10_TH March 1929
Aged 85
JAMES BROLAN Died Dec 1963
His Wife BRIDGET Died Feb 1951
His Sister MARY Died Nov 1964
Also
SHEILA GLEESON (nee BROLAN)
Died 22_ND June 1980
(Interred In Lisboney Nenagh)

R. I. P.

I have also recently discovered that two of Mick the tailor Brolan’s uncles and one aunt emigrated to my home town of Melbourne. A Michael and an Anne Brolan came out in Nov 1868 on the “Conflict”. Michael and James Brolan were also tailors. His aunt Anne married John Greaney in Melbourne and had a family. James was married but seems had no children. Michael was married twice and quite possibly has descendants still living in Australia. On Victorian death records their father is Michael Brolan and mother Agnes Cormac.

There was also an extensive Brolan family ( Dennis, William, John, Patrick and Bridget Brolan) living in Queensland, descendants of a William Brolan and Bridget McCarthy from Quarry St Thurles Co Tipperary. They came out before 1888. A good chance they are also related.

Mary Brolan of Beaudesert Queensland Australia 1925. A descendant of the Quarry St Brolan family.

Back to the story of Kate Brolan nee Fanning.

Kate sailed from Queenstown (Cobh) to New York on the Coronia in 1909.

Passenger list Corinia — Manifest of the Coronia

William Bannon parents were John Bannan and Mary Fanning. Mary came from Lissaroon. It is possible Kate and William were cousins.

I have been told by a Brolan descendant that Kate’s family came from Lissaroon which is where my Fanning ancestors came from.

I have been trying to find out how Kate is related to William Fannin and Sarah Ryan of Lissaroon.

It is possible that the Fannings and Brolans are related by marriage going back. Michael Brolan was married to Agatha Cormac around 1840 and earlier about 1806 William Fannin married Honora McCormack. The Cormack or McCormack family was one of the main families living in the small townland of Lissaroon. I am looking to see if I can find out if Honoria was Agatha’s aunt.

Kate’s parents were James Fanning and Alice Long. They were married in Holycross Parish in Ballycahill Catholic Church on Feb 20th 1873. Martin Eviston and Mary Long were witnesses.

James was a farmer from Kill in Drom Parish and his father was John Fanning, also a farmer. Alice’s father was William Long and a farmer from Barracurra which close to Lissaroon.

Drom & Ballycahill parishes in North Tipperary

Map showing Lissaroon, Barracurra and Kilvilcorris

The children of James Fanning and Alice Long were all baptised in Holycross Parish. James and Alice lived at Barracurra.

The children of James Fanning and Alice Long were:

Margaret baptised June 18, 1874. Her godparents were John Ryan and Margaret Fanning.

Then came Kate, baptised as Catherine, on 14th Nov 1875. Her sponsors were William Fanning and Alice Long.

After Catherine in 1877 John was born. He was baptised on 10th May 1877 and sponsors for him were Joseph Fanning and Ellen McGrath.

Mary Fanning was born in 1879 and baptised on the 18th of Oct in that year. Bridget Long and Mary Fanning were sponsors.

Then in 1882 Alice Fanning was born. Her sponsors were John and Joanna Banon. She was baptised on Feb 17th 1882.

William Fanning was born 14th July 1884 and baptised on 28th July.

The informant for all their births was Mary Darmody, except in the case of Mary. Honoria Mulcahy, an Ursuline nun, Sister Mary Baptist, was the informant for her birth.

In the 1901 and 1911 Census records James and his family are living at Barracurra where Alice came from. In 1901 his age is given as 58 which would mean he was born about 1843 but in the 1911 Census his age is 72 which would make his birth about 1839.

James Fanning & family in the 1901 Census

1901 Census House 6 Kilvilcorris Co Tipperary — 1911 Census House 1 James Fanning & family Barracurragh Co Tipperary

Alice Fanning died age 67, on 28 April 1912 at Barracurra. Her husband James died three years later on Dec 30, 1915 age 68.

Now comes the hard part, identifying the parents of James Fanning, Kate’s grandparents. On the marriage record for James Fanning and Alice Long his address is given as Kill. This is an abbreviation.

Tipperary Family History Research found only one baptism about 1840 for a James Fanning from Drom with the address as “Kill”. He was born in the Parish of Drom June 3 1838. His parents were John Fanning and Margaret Russell. Their address is was given as Kile. His godparents were Bridget and Pat Mahony.

There were also Fannings living in the townland of Killahagan in Drom Parish but TFHR did not find a baptism there for James Fanning born c 1840. Living there were Thomas, John senior and John jnr Fannon. On the above map you can see that the two townlands, Kilvilcorris and Killahagan are next to each other.

John Fanning and Margaret Russell were married in 1827 in Drom Parish Co Tipperary. I am waiting for TFHR to send me their marriage record which hopefully will have John’s father’s name and maybe an address. Unfortunately their marriage record has no parents or address! They were married in Drom Parish on Jan 30 1827 and William Russell and William Purcell were witnesses.

The Tithe Applotment Books are now online at the National Archives site.

In 1825 in the townland of Kilvacorus there is a John Fanning with 15 acres and a Edm Fanning senior with 11 acres and a Edm Fanning junior with 11 acres also. These are most likely John’s father and brother.

Kilvilcoris in 1825 Tithe Applotment Books — Tenants in Kilvilcoris Townland in the 1825 Tithe Applotment Books

I have had all this information in a folder and have not added it to any family trees as I am not absolutely sure that the parents of James Fanning are John Fanning and Margaret Russell and how they are related to my Fanning ancestors. I am posting all I have in the hope someone may be able to confirm or otherwise or add to what I have. Nothing much will happen if it all stays in the folder!

I am at the stage in my research of the Fanning family in Co Tipp where I have exhausted all the sources I can online and all the new information and stories and photos come from readers contacting me, which I love.

Kilvilcorris 1855 Map from Landed Estates Rentals

John,Joseph,Widow Fanning Killvillcoris Landed Estates — Tenants in Kilvilcorris landed estates 1855

The children of Margaret Russell and John Fanning of Kilvilcorris, all born in the parish of Drom, were:

Edward Fanning baptised Jan 18 1828 , address Kile. Sponsors were James Fanning and Cath Russell.

William Fanning baptised 29 March 1831. Address given as Kille. Sponsors were Joe Fanning and Mary Donovan. William married Emma Flynn. Laurence and Margaret Fanning are listed as their children in the 1901 Census. I have a marriage record for them from familysearch.org for 16 Oct 1880 Kill Drom. She is listed as Amy Flynn Fanning. On the 1901 Census her name is written as Anny Fanning.

Catherine Fanning baptised 28 July 1833. Address Kille. Sponsors were Thomas Doherty and Mary Fanning.

James Fanning baptised June 3 1838. Address Kile. Sponsors Pat and Bridget Mahony.

Joseph Fanning baptised July 12 1840. Address Kile. Sponsor was Ellen Gleeson.

Margaret Fanning baptised June 28 1842. Address Drom. Sponsors Edm Fanning and Mary Russell.

Johanna Fanning baptised Jan 1 1845. Address Kill. Sponsors were Michael Ryan and Mary Fanning.

This information on the Fannings at Killvilcorris is from Griffiths Valuation about 1850:

John Fanning Poor Law Union of Thurles, Parish of Drom, Townland of Drom. Map reference 8. Street Number 37A. House,Office and garden: 31 perches, net annual value of land: 3 shillings, net annual value of buildings: 6 pounds 15 shillings. Mar 1850.

Joseph Fanning Poor Law Union of Thurles, Parish of Drom, Townland of Drom. Street no 50A. House, offices, and land: 26 acres 2 roods 22 perches, net annual value of land: 27 pounds 16 shillings, net annual value of buildings 4 pounds 1 shilling.

No 50B is leased by Joseph Fanning to Judith Harris and consists of a house with a net annual value of 14 shillings. Map reference 45. Mar 1850.

The entries for Fanning in the 1901 and 1911 Census for the townland of Kilvilcorris are below:

House no 12 Kilvilcorris 1901 Census — House no 6 Kilvilcorris Drom 1901 Census

In the 1911 Census there is no house No 12 or other Fannings living in Kilvilcorris other than those at No 6.

John and Margaret Fanning nee Russell and other family members are buried in the New Drom Cemetery in Co Tipperary. The gravestone has been transcribed but is very hard to read.

Erected to the memory of John Fanning of Kilvacorus who died Aug 15 1873 aged 31, also in memory of Margaret MaGrath. John Fanning died Aug 20 1876 aged 90 years. Also his wife and Margaret Russell who died June 15 1882 aged 86.

The gravestone inscription record from Irish Family History Foundation has John’s age as 90 and date of death as 20 August 1876.

Back of Fannings of Kilvilcorris gravestone Drom Cemetery

This side has been transcribed as “And their son William who died March 10 1903? aged 70 ?years also his son John who died April ?? aged? also Laurence Fanning died June 19?? aged 50 years inserted by his mother. It is so hard to read that some of the above may be guesses.

The Civil death records show:

John Fanning of Kill died age 36 on 15 August 1873. The informant being William Fanning of Kill.

John Fanning of Drom died 23 July 1875, aged 23. Informant was Mary Fanning.

John Fanning of Drom in the Parish of Templemore died Dec 7, 1876 aged 84.

John Fanning the son of William died age 18 on 25 Feb 1899.

William who was Katie Fanning’s uncle died March 13 1901 of influenza. He was 70. His wife is listed as Anny Fanning.

This is as far as I can go with my quest to find how Katie is related to William Fannin and Sarah Ryan of Lissaroon.

From the Tithe Applotment Book it looks like an Edmond Fanning was the father of John Fanning who married Margaret Russell. I was told the Fannins came to Lissaroon about 1741. William Fannin was born about 1731, so he was about ten years old. Edward Fannin senior on the Kilvacorrus Tithe Applotment page could be his brother which would mean that Lisaroon was his home.

I have been told by a Brolan descendant that in Ballycahill Cemetery there is a Darmody grave which also has two of Kate Brolan nee Fanning’s siblings buried there as well.

Fogarty Family of Lisheenataggart Loughmore West Co Tipperary Ireland

The Fogarty and Fanning families are linked by marriage in Co Tipperary Ireland. William Fanning married Catherine Fogarty of Lisheenataggart Loughmore West Co Tipperary and they lived at Clondoty Co Tipperary and raised their fifteen children there .Includes a list of all Fogarty graves in Loughmore Cemetery Co Tipperary Ireland.

Map of irish Counties use — Map of Irish Counties

William Fanning of Clondoty was married to Catherine Fogarty of Lisheenataggart in Loughmore West Parish Co Tipperary Ireland. Her father was Thomas Fogarty and her mother was Honoria Long. Her grandparents were Cornelius Fogarty and Catherine Birmingham.

William (Billy) Fanning and his wife Catherine Fanning nee Fogarty outside their house at Clondoty Co Tipperary

Thomas Fogarty did not have any sons so he bought the Clondoty property off his cousin, also called Thomas Fogarty, and gave it to his daughter Catherine and son-in-law William Fanning.

William and Catherine Fanning raised their family of fifteen children at Clondoty.

Area north of Thurles Showing Clondoty, Clonomuckoge, Lisheenataggert and Lissaroon in Co TipperaryThese are Fogarty gravestone inscriptions from Loughmore Catholic Cemetery Co Tipperary Ireland. I am not sure how many are related and what the relationships are as yet. Many of the Fogarty and Fanning records I need are not in the North Tipperary genealogy database. As I find traces of the Fogarty family of Lisheenataggart I will add them to this post. Anyone further info on them or leads would be much appreciated :

Fogarty Catherine died 28.8.1862 aged 18 years, Cornelius died 3.9.1867 aged 27 years, Ellen died 9.6.1879 aged 28 years. Fogarty Catherine, erected by Cornelius Fogarty of Lisheenataggart in memory of his wife who died 3.2.1854 aged 74 years, the above Cornelius died 8.11.1868 aged 96 years. Fogarty Cornelius died 13.7.1774 aged 27 years. Fogarty Honoria, erected by Daniel Fogarty of Whitefield in memory of his wife who died 12.11.1912 aged 75 years, above Daniel died 12.2.1915 aged 74 years, his son Michael of Graigue, Drom died 3.4.1932 aged 57 years and his wife Alicia nee Looby died 15.10.1915 aged 87 years. Fogarty John Esq died 3.6.1927 aged 80 years, his wife Nannie, of Dublin died 24.7.1896. Michael of Lisheenatagart died 23.1.1935 aged 79 years, his wife Elizabeth died 8.2.1931 aged 68 years. Fogarty John, erected by Richard Fogarty in memory of his father John Fogarty of Kilrush who died 30.4.1904 aged 85 years and his sister Mary died 15.7.1896 aged 26 years, his mother Bridget died 15.3.1918 aged 78 years. Fogarty Michael and his wife Mary nee Hayes died 17.9.1925 and 18.12.1928 respectively, daughter Mary died 3.10.1909, Michael Fogarty of Skehane of Two Mile Borris died 27.6.1971 and his wife Bridget died 2.6.1987. Fogarty Mrs Thomas Fogarty of Lisheenataggart died 16.1.1874 aged 68 years, daughter Bridget died 13.5.1873 aged 25 years, her husband Thomas died 8.5.1892 aged 86 years. Fogarty Patrick and Mary, erected by Denis and William Fogarty of Loughmore in memory of their father and mother, Patrick died June 1863 aged 60 years, Mary died March 1915 aged 84 years, also their sister Mary May died 1875 aged 25 years and Sarah wife of William died May 1899 aged 40 years. Above William died 16.8.1921 aged 61 years, Denis died 26.11.1931 aged 76 years, his wife Mary died 21.5.1949, their daughter Kathleen died 12.6.1942 and their son Patrick died 1.12.1974. Fogarty Timothy of Lisheenatagart died 20.1.1887 aged 76 years, his wife Mary nee Hayes died 1.1.1885 aged 65 years, Eleen nee Carrick died 29.11.1986. John died 28.8.1987. Fogarty William of Longorchard, Templetouhy died 16.7.1970 aged 85 years, his wife Mary died 9.2.1958 aged 60 years, also his brother James died 21.3.1960 aged 60 years. Fogarty William of Templetuohy died 15.3.1964. Fogarty William, erected by Mrs Fogarty of Lisheenataggart in memory of her husband who died 22? And her son Thomas died 10.11.1893 aged 38 years and Mrs Fogarty died 29.1.1896 aged 80 years. Fogarty William, erected by Mrs McDonald in memory of her father William Fogarty of Kilglooney who died 28.7.1873 aged 78 years, his wife Mary died 7.4.1862 aged 63? Years.
taken from CEMETERY HEADSTONE TRANSCRIPTIONS IRELAND by Sue Grieves

The following pages are from “Loughmore Parish Index to Burials in Loughmore and Templeree Graveyards” which is in the Thurles Library in Co Tipperary.

Fogartys in Loughmore Cemetery Co Tipperary Ireland — Fogarty Graves in Loughmore Cemetery Co Tipperary

Below are photos of some Fogarty graves in Loughmore Cemetery.

Tithe Applotment Books for Lisheenataggert 1827:

Tithe Applotment Entry Fogarty Lisheenataggert CR — 1827 Tithe Applotment Entry for Lisheenataggert. Connor being short for Cornelius

Those who leased or owned property just before Sept 1849 in Lisheenataggart are listed in Griffiths Valuation for Loughmore West Parish:

Griffiths Valuation 1849 Lisheenataggart_NEW — Griffiths Valuation 1849 Lisheenataggart Co Tipperary Ireland

1901 Census Fogarty LisheenataggertCR — 1901 Census Fogarty Lisheenataggert

Fogarty brothers in Jamaica

I very recently was made aware that three Fogarty, Daniel, John and William, sons of Cornelius Fogarty and Catherine Birmingham went to Jamaica in the 1820’s, presumably to make their fortune.

It looks as if William returned. I don’t have any information or records on John in Co Tipperary other than his Baptism, so he may well have stayed in Jamaica.

The information below was kindly sent to me by Richard Osborne, a descendant of Daniel Fogarty:

“Much of my knowledge about the history of my Fogarty line in Jamaica is thanks to the research of my fellow Fogarty descendant Carey Robinson, a Jamaican scholar and media man who also served for a time in the Jamaican foreign service (at the Jamaican embassy in Mexico, I recall). I have never met Carey in person but we have corresponded (I’m from the USA, and my only visit to Jamaica was before I knew about Carey, but during that trip I did meet other relatives I have in common with Carey and who also are descended from Daniel Fogarty and Daniel’s daughter Mary Ann Fogarty Manhertz).

In particular, a draft book manuscript of Carey’s (which I got from my cousin Olive Manhertz Bailey from England) summarized the information about our common family history, which I could corroborate independently or at least use as a clue to start down a new path always with such endeavors, some of Carey’s details weren’t quite correct but were close enough to point me in the right direction.

According to Carey’s draft manuscript, the two Fogarty brothers who emigrated with my ancestor Daniel from Tipperary to Jamaica some time in the 1820’s were John and William (I haven’t independently confirmed this and I’m not sure how that matches up with the information you have compiled). I have read that there was emigration from Ireland to Jamaica at least since the time of Oliver Cromwell. In the 1820’s, the mainstay of the Jamaican economy was sugar but coffee was also very lucrative, and the Fogarty brothers ended up growing coffee and working on coffee plantations in the Blue Mountain area (which is also broadly the region of Jamaica where they “planted” their family trees).

Here are more details about the Fogartys in Jamaica, according to Carey Robinson:

Daniel and his brothers went to different parishes in the coffee-growing region of eastern Jamaica. John went to Portland Parish (location of Bremen Valley, where my Manhertz ancestors were originally from); William went to St. Andrew Parish; and Daniel settled in what was then St. David Parish (now the western part of St. Thomas Parish). Daniel planted coffee on Sherwood Forest estate in northern Saint David and supervised other nearby properties, probably near his brother John and Bremen Valley. Close to Sherwood Forest was a place called Mount Hybla, where a woman of African descent named Princess lived (the owner of the Mount Hybla estate was John Atkins, the Lord Mayor of London; I’m not sure if he also owned Sherwood Forest but I saw a record indicating a connection between the two estates). In 1830, Princess gave birth to Daniel’s daughter, Mary Ann Fogarty. A record I found reports that, in 1832, two-year-old Mary Ann, identified as a “mulatto” and the daughter of Princess, was living at Mount Hybla but that Princess had died by then. Carey Robinson wrote that Daniel “was delighted with the little girl” and “took her to live at Sherwood Forest” (but, based on the census record I found, apparently not immediately at birth – one possibly relevant fact is that slavery ended in Jamaica in 1834). Carey writes further that Mary Ann “grew up in [Daniel’s] house, shared his table, sat with his guests and occupied a secure place under his roof . . . he sent her to school in Kingston where, among other things, she learned to sew.”

Mary Ann had at least two brothers, not necessarily from the same mother: John William and Daniel II (my cousin Olive in England told me she recently connected with a descendant of John William Fogarty’s daughter Evelyn Fogarty: a woman named Sydney Robinson).

Daniel died on October 20, 1844 and was buried the next day in the old Roman Catholic cemetery on Orange Street in Kingston. Carey found the following record in the Roman Catholic archives in Jamaica: “21st October, 1844, was buried in the Catholic Cemetery the body of Daniel Fogarty, late of the Parish of St. George, who departed this life on the 20th October, age 38. He was a native of Ireland.” (Based on the Tipperary baptismal record, he would have actually been about 40 years old)

In 1851 in Kingston, at age 21, Mary Ann married my great-great grandfather, Joseph Manhertz, who was about 12 years her senior. Joseph got the Manhertz name from John (Johann) Michael Manhertz, the owner of the Bremen Valley estate where he grew up and was a slave in his youth until slavery was abolished in 1834. Johann Manhertz had Afro-German-Jamaican children but there is no indication of a biological connection between John Manhertz and Joseph. Joseph may have left Bremen Valley in about 1834 (when that estate went bankrupt) and found employment at the Sherwood Forest estate, where he worked with Daniel Fogarty and would have first met the young Mary Ann. Joseph had become a skilled carpenter and furniture maker (and later a small landowner and coffee planter himself) and, with his experience in the coffee business gained at Bremen Valley, was well equipped to work at Sherwood Forest.

In the class- and color-conscious society of 1850’s colonial Jamaica, Mary Ann would have been regarded as marrying beneath her station, and her brothers swore to hunt down Joseph and take revenge. The newlyweds went to a remote part of St. Thomas Parish until the situation cooled down and then settled in what was then St. David Parish (now part of St. Thomas), living in a house built by Joseph that stood at least until the 1970s-1980s. They were well known for their skill as a craftsman and a seamstress and became small landholders and planters and respected leaders in their community. Their many descendants live in many corners of the globe, including Jamaica, Panama (where my dad was born), all parts of the US, Canada, England, Australia and Thailand.”

I’d love to hear from any other Jamaican Cornelius Fogarty descendants to add to this fascinating story.