Letter from Archbishop O’Donnell 1978

In this letter Archbishop O’Donnell, born Fethard Co Tipperary Ireland in 1897, outlines his family history. His grandmother, Sarah Sheehan nee Fanning, was the sister of William Patrick Fanning who emigrated to Victoria in 1841. He died in Australia in 1980.

Archbishop O'Donnell in Fethard Co Tipperary 1954
Archbishop O’Donnell in Fethard Co Tipperary 1954

Archbishop O’Donnell researched and documented his family history. His grandmother, Sarah Sheehan nee Fanning, was the sister of William Patrick Fanning who emigrated to Victoria in 1841. In a letter he wrote to his nephew in the U.S he outlines his family history.

Archbishop Patrick Mary O’Donnell

Archbishop Patrick Mary O’Donnell

Easter Sunday ‘78

My Dear Jack,

I am very grateful for the family news you gave me at Xmas and I have entered your grandchildren in the Family Tree. They are the seventh generation from my great-grandfather James O’Donnell (1757-1810) and Amy Elizabeth is the seventh generation of the name O’Donnell.

I have three large charts containing respectively the Pedigree of the O’Donnells of Knockinglass, the Skehans and the Creans. They were compiled by our cousin Father Walter Skehan (RIP). He was a first class historian and he got his information from various family records, parish registers, tombstone inscriptions, old government documents etc. etc.

Copies of these three Pedigrees are with John Skehan (farmer) of Clonbrogan, Fethard, Co. Tipp. (Father Walter’s brother), with the Diocesan Archives, Archbishop’s House, Thurles, with the Irish Genealogical Office, Dublin. They contain hundreds and hundreds of names.

You can imagine this when you reflect that my great-grandfather had eight children (2 sons, 6 daughters) and they had 82 children. Imagine their descendants! So, you may see how impossible it is for me to send you these charts to inspect. You can understand how I would not let them out of me possession for a moment.

I compiled excerpts for you and a table which shows your own direct descent from James O’Donnell (1757-1810) and as far as your grandchildren. If any of the other members of the O’Donnell clan in the USA are interested, what I am sending you will be sufficient for you to compile a genealogy for them.

I have a notebook which my father kept in which he entered the dates of his own parents’ deaths, of the date of birth of his own sixteen children living and dead, of the dates of your father’s and your uncles’ Joe and Ned going to business in Dublin and the dates of their departure for the USA, of their marriages and deaths. I cannot lay my hands on the notebook at the moment. The last time I saw it was about 3 months ago but I put it away so carefully that I cannot find it now. But I will find it some day.

Your sister Kitty is now a grandmother. Her grandchildren would also be seventh generation. I want the name of the wife of your some Thomas, the Christian name of Gracie’s husband and their dates of birth of your children and grandchildren, and any other information about the family that you can.

There are several families of O’Donnells in County Tipperary viz. O’Donnells of Seskin, O’Donnells of Cleragh, O’Donnells of Poulmucka, O’Donnells of Knockinglass etc. etc. There is a tradition that those around the south and east of the county came from the west of the county and perhaps (and very likely) they all had their origin from a few or maybe one family that came from Tyrconnell (Donegal) some centuries ago. One theory is that the O’Donnells of County Tipperary come from one Turlough O’Donnell, called Turlough of the Wines who came from Tyrconnell.

If there is anything you want explained or something you do not understand in the lists I have sent you, ask me. I am enjoying good health at 81, thank God. I have no duties to perform so I read a great deal. I loved my stay in Ireland last year. They seem to be all well there. Your Aunt Cis is getting on for 86 and keeps good health. She has lost the sight of one eye – a glaucoma; still she does quite a lost (sic) of crochet work and goes frequently to Dublin, Cork etc. and for Sunday drives with the girls. Give all my love and every blessing to Grace and all the family. Your devoted Uncle, PS I am sending the Family Tree list under separate cover by this mail.

Some genealogical notes by Archbishop O’Donnell for the information of his nephew Jack O’Donnell of New York USA.

O’Donnell’s of Knockinglass (near Moyglass) County Tipperary, Ireland. James O’Donnell born 1757, died 1810, married Catherine Crihane (now pronounced and written Crean). There is, so far a lack of documentary evidence as to the immediate ancestors of James O’Donnell but tradition has it that his family and other O’Donnell families came from the west of the county and are a branch of the great clan O’Donnell of Tyrconnell (Donegal) which played a noted part (with the nearby O’Niells) in the history of Ireland. Catherine Crihane (Crean) was most probably the daughter of James Crean of Knockelly, Fethard. The evidence for this is very strong. If this is so, she is the grand-daughter of John Crean who is the retinue of Sir John Everard of Fethard, who fought on the Irish Catholic side against the English at the Battle of Aughrim in 1690. The Irish were defeated in the battle. Sir John Everard was killed, but John Crean returned safely to Knockelly. This John Crean was the grandson of Thomas Crean, who was living in 1666. That is as far back as we can go, mainly through the lack of documentation due to the Anglo-Irish wars and destructions about that time and earlier.

James O’Donnell lived in Knockinglass and is buried in the churchyard at Rathcool near Fethard which is the traditional burial ground of the family.

James O’Donnell and Catherine Crihane (Crean) are the great-grandparents of Archbishop O’Donnell of Brisbane, Australia, and of his late brothers John (Jack), Joseph and Edward (Ned) of New York, USA.

James O’Donnell and Catherine Crihane had two sons and six daughters. The sons were James (Whom we call James II to distinguish him from his father) and John. The six daughters became Mrs. Nolan, Mrs. Skehan, Mrs. O’Connell, Mrs. Fitzgerald, Mrs. Slattery and Mrs. Cunningham. These eight children had families averaging about ten in each family. It is a tradition amongst the families that eighty-two first cousins attended Sunday Mass in the parish church at Moyglass and that at Christmastime, they used to make mutual visits of friendship and goodwill. My father, Thomas O’Donnell of Fethard was one of these first-cousins. I remember meeting a few others when I was a boy.

James II was born 1810. It was the year his father died. When James grew up, he acquired a farm of his own at Rathduff near Moyglass and three miles from Fethard. He married Ellen O’Sullivan both lived to be about ninety. They were my grandparents. I remember my grandmother, Ellen, but I do not remember my grandfather because he died before I was born or when I was a baby. My other brothers would have remembered him, especially your father Jack who lived at Rathduff as a boy, possibly because farm life was good for his health or because his relatives at Rathduff were dotingly fond of him, which I thin, was very true. James and Ellen could speak the Irish language.

My brother Jim told me that when they were very old and unable to attend Sunday Mass at Moyglass they used to kneel in their own kitchen at Mass time and say their prayers aloud in Irish. Ellen, my grandmother was a girl of 14 when Catholic Emancipation brought an end to the Penal Laws in Ireland in 1829. At that time, she would have heard her parents and others speak and reminisce about the rebellion of 1798. Of Robert Emmett, Wolfe Tone, Lord Edward Fitzgerald and Father Murphy of Wexford. She would have well remembered the terrible famine of 1847, the Rising of 1848 and the Fenians of 1867, etc. etc. She must have had wonderful memories but I was too young to have any sense of history and did not question her.

James II and his wife Ellen had a family as follows:-John, James, Kate, Maria, Michael , Patrick, Thomas, Ellen. John married. His wife died soon afterwards and he returned to Rathduff where he lived with his sister Kate and his brother Patrick (both unmarried). Kate died in 1917; John and Patrick died in 1923. James married in Albany USA where he died in 1890. He had a son James and possibly more children. James had a son, a lawyer (who was therefore a grandson of James who was born at Rathduff). James (the grandfather) lived at 448 1st Street, Albany. I have lost touch with them.

Maria married a James Morrissey of Manchester, England and had about six in family. I have lost touch with them.

Michael went to Australia and married a Scotch lady named Miller. They had two sons, Bobby and Eric. Michael went goldmining at Charters Towers in North Queensland. He got some gold but the reef at which he was working fell on him and he was brought to his hotel which was run by his cousin Lena Fitzgerald (Mrs. Rodgers). Lena afterwards came to live in Brisbane and told me about Michael. He lived some days and made a will providing for his two boys. The Rodgers were the executors. When the boys came of age they came to claim their legacies from the Rodgers as they wanted to buy a sugar plantation. The Rodgers have not heard of them since. As Michael died in 1897 these two boys (my first cousins) would be older than I. They or their families must be somewhere in this state of Queensland but so far I have not traced them. Somewhere in North Queensland, I should think, in the sugar industry.

Ellen went to Albany and married John M. Bennis. They had two daughters who became Mrs. Porter and Mrs. W. T. Bennis who was a member of the Legislative Committee of American Federation of Labour and lived at 282 Whitehall Rd. Albany. Mrs. Porter has children and grandchildren. Her sister had one girl who died young. Possibly there are more but I have lost touch.

Thomas was my father. He was born in 1856 and died in 1924. He learned the drapery business with the firm of John Ryan Laffan in Thurles, County Tipperary. In 1880 he married Johanna Sheehan of Thurles. She was the daughter of John Sheehan (1815-1881) and his wife Sally (Sarah) Fanning (1816-1888). Sally was the grand-daughter of William Fanning of Lisaroon who was born in 1731. He is buried in the family burial ground at Ballycahill near Thurles.

Thomas O’Donnell and his wife Johanna opened a drapery business at Fethard in 1880 and combined it with some farming activity. They had sixteen children most of whom died in infancy. Seven of those children lived. I was born in 1897. I was the youngest of the sixteen. I am now 81. My father died in 1924. My mother died in 1932. She was, I think, a year or two older than my father. She was about 78 when she died. My father is buried at Rathcool with his O’Donnell ancestors; my mother is buried with the Sheehans in Thurles.

The surviving children of Thomas and Johanna were: Mary Ellen (1881-1916) married James Ryan (D 1922). They left two surviving children. Thomas married Mary Walsh. They have children and grandchildren. Mary (Miriam) a Colonel in the Medical Corps, British Army, married Frank McKay. No issue. John (Jack) your father (1882-1937) married in USA Bridget Murtagh. They had children Thomas (dec’d), Kitty, Mary E. and Jack. All married. All have children and some have grandchildren. Thomas Joseph (Joe) (1884-1932) married Elizabeth O’Malley in USA. Surviving children are Mary Elizabeth, Eileen married M. Akin. They have children, possibly grandchildren, Alice married Walter Shea. James (died 1954) unmarried. Stayed in Fethard. Edward (Ned) married Hannah Cahill in USA. Died in 1932. One surviving son, Thomas who is married with a family. Sarah (Cis) born 1892 married Charles Carri (now deceased) and lives at Clonmel. Has a son Charles who is married with children and two single daughters, Mary and Teresa.

Patrick Mary born 2 Feb 1897. Studied for the priesthood at Mungret College (Jesuit) 1912-1918. Studied Theology at the Urban College and the University of Propaganda Fide, Rome 1918-1922. Ordained a priest on 15 April 1922 by Cardinal Pompili (the Pope’s Vicar General). Went to the Diocese of Sale in Victoria, Australia, 1922. Became Vicar-General of that Diocese and Domestic Prelate to the Pope with the title of Monsignor. Was consecrated Coadjutor-Archbishop of Brisbane with the right of succession to the See on 17th March 1949. Became Archbishop of Brisbane on 10 April 1965. Retired because of advanced age on 5th March 1973. So far for the O’Donnells.

My mother’s maiden name was Johanna Sheehan. The Sheehans were an old clan near Thurles and are now extinct. Sheehan in the Irish language means Peace and if you look at my Episcopal Coat of Arms above you will see that it is composed of the O’Donnell shield (the hand holding the cross) and the Sheehan shield (the dove of peace). My motto is Sub Cruce Pax (Peace under the Cross).

My mother’s mother was Sally (Sarah) Fanning who married John Sheehan. She was a direct descendant of William Fanning and his wife Sarah Ryan. William was born in 1731 at Lisaroon, a prosperous farm near Thurles. It is still in possession of a direct descendant of William but of a different name. The Fannings were a numerous family. They were mostly farmers but some went into business or the professions.

Three Fanning brothers who were my mother’s second-cousins went into the Vintner business in Dublin. They were Patrick, Michael and Joseph. Each had his own business. Your father, Jack, learned the business from Patrick and became his foreman. Your uncles Joe and Ned learned the business at Michael’s. Michael became a Senator in the Irish Parliament. He married his cousin, a Miss Ryan of Thurles. She was a direct descendant of the above William Fanning. Your uncle Joe married her sister Cis; it was his second marriage and her third.

Several descendants of William Fanning (b 1731) intermarried. My mother, Johanna Sheehan had three sisters, Sarah died young, Ellen who married Tom Fanning and Mary who married Patrick Hogan. Mary’s daughters Josephine and Minnie married respectively Ned Fanning and John Fanning. Ned, Tom, John, Michael, Patrick and Joe Fanning were brothers.

The old O’Donnell farm at Knockinglass is still owned by a direct descendant of the first James O’Donnell. He is Michael O’Sullivan whose mother was an O’Donnell. Michael lives on a nearby farm as the old Knockinglass homestead is now a ruin.

The house where your father and all of Thomas’s family were born still stands in the centre of Main St. Fethard. It is a three storey building and is now the business premises and family home of a chemist.

O’Sullivan’s Pharmacy Fethard

One year, when I was on vacation in Ireland, I met an elderly relative Tess Fitzgerald. She remembers my grandfather James II. She told me that on the night he died the Banshee was heard keening round his farms at Rathduff and Coolenure. I told her I never heard of a Banshee keening for any member of our family. She said it was because James II was the seventh generation of the O’Donnells at Knockinglass. Whatever about the Banshee it is clear that there was a tradition amongst the neighbours that James II was the seventh generation. These people kept their oral traditions and genealogies very carefully. If this be true there would have been about five O’Donnells in Knockinglass prior to James I who married Catherine Crean. So far for tradition but it would be difficult now to establish documentary evidence.

Up to about 1950 Fr. Skehan had traced upwards of seventy direct descendants of James I who were in religion (some thirty priests and the rest brothers and nuns). Some amongst the clergy were myself; Monsignor Nolan, Pastor of Tipperary and Vicar-General; his brother Fr. Tom Nolan; Father Tom O’Donnell first Catholic priest in the Isle of Wight since the Reformation; Father Walter Skehan; Monsignor Skehan of Liverpool; Fr. Paul Skehan of USA who became Procurator-General (second in command) of the Dominican Order; his brother who was a professor of Civil Law at Rhode Island College; Fr. O’Connell; Fr. Fitzgerald; several Fathers Hanrahan etc. etc.

The O’Donnell Pedigree from James (1757-1810) to Amy Elizabeth O’Donnell USA is documented.

Source : http://fethard.com/people/more_web_articles/bishop_o_donnell_letter.html

This letter published with kind permission of George Byrnes of Texas USA: geobyrnes AT aol DOT com

When Monsigneur patrick Mary O’Donnell was made archbishop this was reported in the Irish Independent 18 Mar 1949:

Monsigneur O’Donnell is made an archbishop Irish Independent 18 mar 1949

In August 1950 Archbishop O’Donnell visited his home town of Fethard in Co Tipperary:

Archbishop O’Donnell visits Fethard Irish Examiner 25 Aug 1950















Irish Press 26 Aug 1950

Another family connection to Archbishop O’Donnell comes through Michael Mullany son of Bridget Mullany nee Fanning. Michael was the Archbishop’s second cousin.

Archbishop O’Donnel on his way to Dublin 1962 wishing the Mullanys all the best.
Archbishop O’Donnell on his way to Dublin sends best wishes to his cousin Michael Mullany. 1962
Irish Examiner 2 Jun 1969


The death Of Archbishop O’Donnell was reported in the irish Examiner in four editions.

Death of Archbishop O’Donnell The Irish Examiner 3 Nov 1980
Memorial Plaque for Patrick O'Donnell 1897-1980
Patrick O’Donnell 1897-1980








James O’Donnell, brother of Archbishop Patrick O’Donnell. Death notice in the Irish Examiner 19 Apr 1954.
Archbishop O’Donnell’s sister, Sarah Carri’s death notice in the Irish Independent 7 May 1984
Sarah Carri nee O’Donnell St Patricks Cemetery Clonmel Co Tipperary


Fanning and Darmody Listings in Bassett’s Directory 1889 Co Tipperary Ireland

Fanning and Darmody listings in Bassett’s trade directory for Co Tipperary Ireland 1889.

Bassett’s Directory by George Henry Bassett was a manual and directory for manufacturers, merchants, traders, professional men, land-owners, farmers, tourists, anglers and sportsmen generally. It was published in 1889.

All of Bassett’s Directory for County Tipperary is on the Rare Clonmel site.

After their occupation, the street or townland is listed, followed by the town name.

Mrs C Fanning Farmers, Residents, Lissaroon Bouladuff. Bouladuff is a townland of 252 acres 3 roods 17 perches in the Civil Parish of Inch.

Wm Fanning Farmers, Residents, Templenahurney Bansha

John Fanning Farmers, Residents, Lacken Tipperary

James Fanning, Farmers, Residents Glenreighbeg Holycross

Martin Fanning Farmers, residents Borris Two Mile Borris

Martin Fanning Grocers Limerick St Roscrea Wholesale & Family Grocer, Tea, Wine & Spirit merchant, also Mineral Water Manufacturer.

Thos Fanning Grocers New St Thurles

Wm Fanning Farmers, Residents Clondoty Templemore

Wm Fanning Farmers, Residents Kilvilcorris Templemore

James Fanning Farmers, ResidentsBarracurragh Ballycahill

Jas Fanning Schools Parochial Cashel

Fanning Painters Master Stephen St Clonmel Fanning Bros

Pat Darmody Town Commissioners Thurles.

James Darmody Farmers, Residents Kilross Kilross

Daniel Darmody Farmers, Residents Beakstown Holycross

Jerh Darmody Farmers, Residents Beakstown Holycross

John Darmody Farmers, Residents Ballinvoher Clonmel

James Darmody Farmers, Residents Waller’s Lot Cashel

John Darmody Farmers, Residents Rathordan Cashel

Michl Darmody Grocers Henry St 92 Tipperary

Fanning and Darmody Land Sales and Leases 1781 to 1853 Co Tipperary Ireland

Records of land sales and leases 1781-1853 in Co Tipperary Ireland for Fanning, Fannin and Darmody individuals.

7 August 1781 Lease of Knockane. George Ryan of Inch to John Murphy, Patrick Murphy, Michael Murphy and Nicolas Fannin, Farmers of Knockane, for the term of 31 years at an annual rent of 21 pounds. Rent payable in two moieties on the 1 May and 1 Nov. Turf rights are not included and a penalty of 20 shillings will be levied on every kish of turf removed.

27 Oct 1781 Lease of the Bogg of Inch (21a). George Ryan of Inch to Philip Darmody of [Fishmoy], at an annual rent of £10. Rent payable in two moieties on the 1 May and 1 Nov. page 32 Source: Ryan Documents

To let 1816:- Drom House- 50a. in the house division. Lands lately held by William Russell and Ed. Fanning. Source: Rootsweb CoTipperary-L-Archives contributed by Mary Heaphy.

19 April 1836 Copy letter to (Chief Secretary) Drummond from George Ryan, Inch, enclosing a letter to the Lord Lieutenant from Rev. Mulcahy a response to a memorial for David Fanning, currently under sentence of transportation. Ryan adds “a more daring and desperate character is not to be found in this neighbourhood”. Source: Ryan Documents.

Encumbered Estate Records In the aftermath of the Famine, the Government established the Incumbered Estate Court to deal with bankrupt estates. The petitioner before the court had to prepare details of the estates, including the tenancies. During the period 1850-58, 8,000 estates were sold and information on such estates had to be prepared

1. The Estate of Robert Lidwill, a minor, Owner of the lands of Cormackstown, otherwise Ballymacormack situate in the Parish of Holycross, Barony of Eliogarty and County Tipperary. Two of the tenants names are: William Fanning & Widow Fanning. Their leases were year to year leases. Source: Tipperary Encumbered Estate Records.

2.Estate of Thomas P Firman of Mount Falkner Tipperary – Sale Notice contributed by Clare Tuohy. Lands of Grange in the Barony of Eliogarty held forever under a fee-farm grant. Sold by auction 18th May 1852. Grange: Tenants name is Patrick Tuohy and the area of land is 88 acres 1 rod and 5 perches . Under tenure is written “Lease date 14th May 1839, made between Thomas P. Firman of Mount Falkner, in the County of Tipperary and Patrick Tuohy of Lower Grange, Tipperary, farmer, of the other part; for 3 lives or 31 years , lives all in being, viz. John Tuohy aged 20 years, William McGrath now in America aged 30 years and Thomas Fanning now in America, aged 30 years.” Source: Tipperary Encumbered Estate Records.

3. The encumbered estate of John Craven Carden, Bart.,Owner Sale 13 Dec. 1853 Situate in the Barony of Eliogarty, Clondotty. Tenant’s names: William Fanning Tenancy from year to year John Gleeson & William Fanning Tenancy from year to year. Source: Tipperary Encumbered Estate Records.

Fannings in Slater’s Directory 1881 Co Tipperary Ireland

Fannings listed in Thurles Co Tipperary Ireland in Slater’s Directory 1881.

In Thurles, Slater lists:

Patrick Fanning of Main St Thurles under Bakers and Flour Dealers.

Anne Fanning of Gaol St Thurles is listed under Public Houses.

John Sheehan of Quarry St is also under Public Houses. Sarah Fanning, sister of William Patrick Fanning (1812-1876) my gggrandfather, married  John Sheehan and they lived in Quarry Street and had a grocer’s/pub.

Thomas Fanning of New St under Shopkeepers and Dealers in Sundries.

Fanning and Darmody in Slater’s Directory Co Tipperary Ireland 1856

Fanning and Darmody listings in the 1856 Slater’s Directory for Co Tipperary Ireland.

Major Tipperary county Towns in 1856 – Clonmell, Cashel, Roscrea, Nenegh, Tipperary, and Carrick.

Listed in Slater’s 1856 Directory for Thurles:
John Darmody, the Gate, Leather Seller
Patrick Darmody, the Gate, Baker
Edward Fanning, Pudding Lane, Public House (Prop)
Patrick Fanning, Main St, Baker

For Carrick-On-Suir:
Margaret Fanning of Carrick-beg is a blacksmith
Nicholas Fanning of Cook’s Lane is a Boot & Shoemaker
Patrick Fanning of Ballyrichard Rd is a tailor.

Fannings on The Smith O’Brien Petition 1848 Co Tipperary Ireland

Edward, John and Patrick Fanning of Thurles Co Tipperary Ireland signed the petition for clemency for William Smith O’Brien in 1848-9.


In July 1846, William Smith O’Brien joined the Young Irelanders. As the crisis of the Famine in Ireland worsened, the Young Irelanders refused to adhere to the Repeal Association’s basic rule that physical force in politics must be avoided under all circumstances.

In January 1847 the Young Irelanders formed the Irish Confederation Club, to press for effective famine relief. In 1848 William Smith O’Brien was arrested in Ireland, on the grounds that he had traveled to Paris earlier that year in support of the leaders of the new French Republic. He was tried, but released when the jury failed to agree on a verdict. On 26th July 1848 the Irish Confederation Club was proclaimed illegal and warrants were issued for the arrest of the leaders of the Young Irelanders.

On 29th July William Smith O’Brien led an abortive rising in Ballingarry, Co.Tipperary, otherwise known as ‘the battle of Widow McCormack’s cabbage patch’. He was arrested on 6th August 1848 and tried for treason at the district court at Clonmel, Co. Tipperary, found guilty and sentenced to death. The sentence caused great consternation among all segments of the Irish community. Between the finish of the trial in October 1848 and May 1849 various petitions in favour of clemency for William Smith O’Brien were collected around Ireland. (These were the years of the Great Famine in Ireland.) On 5th June 1849 Smith O’Brien’s death sentence was commuted to transportation for life.
He was not transported and was given a conditional pardon on the guarantee he not return to Ireland.
He eventually received a full pardon.
He died in Wales in 1864.

Edward Fanning of Holycross and Thurles (two addresses) Oct 24 1848, John Fanning and Patt Fanning also of Thurles signed the William Smith O’Brien Petition 1848-49.

The total number of signatories to this petition was over 80,000. Tipperary county had the third highest number signing with 4,393 names on the petition.

Fanning and Darmody Poor Relief Rate Payers 1848 Co Tipperary Ireland

Fanning and Darmody poor relief rate payers in Co Tipperary Ireland in 1848.

Rate Relief of the Poor

“At the beginning of the Nineteenth Century in Ireland poverty was widespread. The population had more than doubled in the course of a century and had reached six and a half million. It is estimated that over two million were nearly destitute and at starvation level.

The problem was not one that could be ignored any longer by the British Government. Examination of the situation in Committee lead to a variety of remedies including public works projects, emigration and the introduction of a system of Poor Law. However the growing influx of Irish emigrants to Britain was a matter of increasing concern.

In September 1833, yet another Royal Commission was established. It was chaired by Dr. R Whately, the Protestant Archbishop of Dublin. In the following year the Poor Law Amendment Act was passed which introduced a new system of poor relief to England and Wales. The Workhouse was to be the only method of relief for the poor. At the time it was considered unsuitable for Ireland where the able-bodied were more than willing to accept any work that came their way.

Lord, John Russell the Secretary of State for the Home Department felt that the Commission had overstepped their brief. He decided to send George Nicholls one of the English Poor Law Commissioners to Ireland to investigate the situation. He was to assess whether a system based on Poor Relief, funded by a local poor rate would be effective. He was also to find out whether a workhouse system could be established. Nicholls travelled throughout Ireland. He failed to acknowledge that the needs of Ireland were substantially different to those of England. He recommended that Ireland adopt the English Workhouse System.

His recommendations were influential because in 1837 a bill, The Poor Law Act Ireland 1838,  was introduced in Parliament. The Irish Poor Relief System was to be financed by a local poor rate. It met with opposition from landlords who were perturbed about the expense of the poor rate. Tenants criticised the bill also because they were in dread of confinement to a workhouse. However, in spite of its critics the bill became law, and in July 1838 the “Act for the Effectual Relief of the Destitute Poor in Ireland” was passed.

The Poor Law Commissioners for England and Wales were to have control of the implementation of this act for Ireland. George Nicholls was appointed Commissioner and he was assisted by four assistant commissioners based in Belfast, Dublin, Cork and Limerick. The country was to be divided into Poor Law Unions based on the Irish electoral divisions. The electoral divisions were made up of townlands. Each Union was obliged to provide a workhouse for their destitute poor. A Board of Guardians was elected in each union to administer the Poor Law.  A compulsory rate was levied in each union to finance their system. The granting of relief was at the discretion of the Poor Law Guardians. Priority was given to the aged and infirm, children and people resident within the Union concerned. Boards of Guardians were elected annually on the 25th March, and only cess payers could vote. Later in the nineteenth century the Poor Law developed to encompass services such as outdoor relief, medical services for the poor, assisted migration and other social services.” From Askaboutireland

Fanning, Fannin and Darmody rate relief payers under individual parishes:

Rate Relief for the Poor of Thurles Union 10 Oct 1848 Moycarkey: John Fanning , Grague; Wm. Fanning, Grague; Patt Fanning , Maxforth; Joe Fanning , Pouldine.

Rate Relief for the Poor of the Thurles Union 1842 Templeree E.D.: Michl. Fanning- Strogue.

Rate Relief for the Poor of the Thurles Union Templemore E.D. 30 June 1846- Part 2: Wm. Fanning – Barrack St (Houses only).

Rate Relief for the Poor of Thurles Union Buolick E.D. 19 Nov 1844: Ballynastick- Thos. Fanning.

Rate Relief for the Poor of Thurles Union Ballymureen E.D. 20 Jan 1846: Parkstown – Joseph Fanning (immediate lessor).

Rate Relief for the Poor of Thurles Union: Inch E.D. 9 Dec 1845: William Fanning Lissaroon: 33 acres,3 rods no perches. Lissaroon is a townland of 296 acres 1 rood 1 perch and is covered by O.S. Maps 40 & 41 . Civil Parish of Inch, RC Parish of Drom and Inch.

Poor Law Union Thurles Moyne Electoral Division 21 Nov 1843: Connor Fanning Lisdonowley House & Land; Wm Faning Castletown House & Land; James Fanning immediate lessor Cooleeny House & Land; Margret Darmody immediate lessor Moynetemple H&L.

Poor Law Union Thurles Borrisoleigh E.D. 30 June 1846: John Fanning Rathmoyne immediate lessor; Joseph Fanning Knockahorna (Knockharney?); John Fanning Knockahorna (Knockharney?); Mary Fanning Knockahorna immediate lessor; Wm. Fanning Knockahorna immediate lessor; Danl. & Joh Fanning Knockanevin; Mary Fanning Knockanevin; Larry Fanning Corrigeen & Cullohil (Carrigeen & Cullahill?); Luke Fanning Corrigeen & Cullohil; Wm. Fanning immediate lessor Burrisoleigh; Teoffy Fanning ‘ immediate lessor Burrisoleigh; Patt Darmody Newtown.

Thurles Poor Law Union Drom E.D. 27 Jan 1846: John Fanning Killahagan; Cath. Fanning Killahagan; John Fanning Killahagan; John Fanning Killvilcorris; Joseph Fanning Killvilcorris; Thos. Fanning Killvilcorris; Denis Darmody Ballinlonty; Wm. Darmody Ballinlonty; Patt Darmody Ballinlonty; Daniel Darmody Fishmoyne; John & Jas Fanning Drum (Drom); Anastience Fanning Drum; Thos. Fanning Ballynastick.

Thurles Poor Law Union Ballymureen E.D.: Joseph Fanning Parkstown immediate lessor.

Holycross E.D 31 Jan 1842: Richd. Fanning Glenreagh; Richard Fanning Grange; Widow Fanning Grange; William Darmody Beakstown; John Darmody Beakstown; Thos. Darmody Beakstown.

Loughmoe East E.D. 31 Jan 1842: Patrick Fanning Corguilla; John Fanning Gortreagh; John Fanning Graugeafrihane; Nicholas Fanning Graugeafrihane; Thomas Fanning Graugeafrihane; John Fanning Kilerak; Widow Fanning Kilerak; John Fanning Skeagh; Patrick Fanning Skeagh.

Loughmoe West E.D. 9 Dec 1845: Michael Darmody Ballybristy; Philip Darmody Ballybristy; Edmd. Fanning Carrig of Loughmore immediate lessor; John Fanning Cloone immediate lessor; Patt Fanning Cloone; Philip Darmody Kill; Catherine Fanning Lishenataggart.

Twomileborris E.D. 31 Jan 1842: Thomas Fanning Clodfields; Widow Fanning (Mary?) Clodfields; Edmond Fanning Garraun; John Fanning Garraun; Widow Fanning (Margaret?) Garraun; Joseph Fanning Garraun; Widow Fanning (Mary?) Garraun; Michael Fanning Ballybeg; Joseph Fanning Derryhogan.

Thurles E.D. 8 Dec 1846: Commons: John Fanning (Lisnagonoge?); John Fanning (Lisnagonoge?); Garryvicleheen: Patt Fanning; Kearn’s Ln: Patt Fanning; Main St West: John Fanning; Kilrush: Thos. Fanning; Knockane: Wm. Darmody; John Fanning; Little or Upper Lewagh: Cath. Fanning; Loughtagalla: Mary Fanning; Mary Fanning; Main St: Pat Fanning; Nicholas St: John Fanning; Pike St: Edwd. Fanning; Pudding Lane: Edwd. Fanning; Edwd. Fanning; Edmd Fanning; Edwd. Fanning; John Fanning; Seskin: John Fanning; Michl Darmody; Toreen: Michl. Fanning; Turtulla: Richd. Fanning; Margt Fanning.

The above records are from  County Tipperary Ireland Genealogy.

Co Tipperary Ireland Grand Jury Presentments Fannin and Fanning 1831

Widow Fannin of Barnane and Edmond Fanning a sessions keeper of Thurles are mentioned in these 1830 grand jury presentments.

BENNETT, John HENDY, Carroll to repair 558 perches of the road from Roscrea to Burris-o’leigh, betw. Patrick COSTIGAN’S house at Gurtacurra and the Widow FANNIN’S house at the bounds of Barnane. Ruled at the Grand Jury Presentments – 1831 Baronies of Ikerrin & Upper Ormond Barony of Ikerrin. Source: IGP


FANNING, Edmond, Sessions keeper of Thurles, for his half year’s salary. Granted at the Summer Assizes, 1831. Source: IGP

Fannings and Darmodys in the Religious Census 1766 Co Tipperary Ireland

Fanning and Darmody entries in the Religious Census of 1766 for Co Tipperary Ireland.

The largest religious census was undertaken in 1766. Each Church of Ireland minister was asked to provide a listing of all members of each denomination in his parish.

The number after the name gives the number of people in the household.

Parish of Donoghil (Tipperary South)1766 : Michael Darmody, Thomas Darmody, Walter Darmody, James Darmody

Parish of Killevinogue: Thomas Darmody 6, John Darmody 4, William Darmody 3.

Parish of Knockgraffon (Tipperary South): Mich Fanning, John Fanning

Parish of Mealiffe or Moyaliffe (6 miles S.W. from Thurles): David Fannin 6, David Fannin.

Cullen, Soloheadmore, Soloheadbeg and Cluggin. 1766: Jonathan Darmody.

United parishes of Latin, Bruis, Shronill, Corrogue, Clonpet & Cordangan -,Civil Parishes in South Tipperary. Adjoining names will be neighbours: John Ryan, Timothy Nihill, William Ryan, James Giffin [Griffin], Richard Molowny, Daniel Ryan, John Shehane [Sheehan], Daniel Ryan, William Fannin, William Pendergast, Darby Murphy, James Murphy, Thomas Glasheen, Cornelius Raverty, Malachy Dunnavane, John Hackett, Roger Corbet, Darby Reardon, Pat Comenane (Cummin], Richard Power, John Fannin, Robert Fannin.

Parish of Newchapel: John Faning.

Full lists are at Religious Census 1766 IGP