This category contains information and records about the Fanning families from Thurles Co Tipperary. Related families from other parts of Ireland and general Irish historical background are also included here.
I have just come up as a DNA match to a descendant of the Fanning Stapleton family who came out to Australia in 1857 and 1858. They eventually settled in Esk Queensland. They had lived for some time in Guernsey in the Channel Islands.
The gentleman who matches me on Ancestry believes that John Fanning who married Judith Loobey was the brother of my grgrgrandfather William Patrick Fanning (Big Bill) of Sunnyside Bulla. He has joined my Fanning family with his on Ancestry.com. As yet I am not convinced that these two trees are connected.
I have just found the marriage record for John Fanning and Johanna Luby. They were married in an adjoining parish on 5 Feb 1825, in Boherlahan Parish. Judith Loobey came from Boherlahan and John Fanning from Moycarkey. Witnesses were John and ? Luby of Ballytarsna.
If John Fanning from Moycarkey was the son of Edmond Fanning and Judith Darmody born 1809 he would have been 16 years old when he married. This seems highly unlikely.
The only evidence or proof I have that this John Fanning who married Judith Looby is the son of Edward Fanning and Judy Darmody is my DNA match with this Fanning Stapleton descendant. But this match is quite small as we only share 8cms. This in itself could be okay but we don’t share any matches which is odd as I have two close Fanning cousins who are direct descendants on Ancestry and by rights they should have come up as matches. I have since found out that matches only come up if the people involved share at least 20 cms.
It is still quite possible that we are related but not as one of my grgrgrandfather’s brothers. On his tree he has many other Co Tipperary folk all living around Thurles where my grgrgrandfather was born.
I might add this family to my Ancestry tree and see if this produces any more matches. The offspring of John’s son Laurence and his wife Mary Stapleton were numerous. There must be many descendants of this family out there. Laurence Fanning and Mary Stapleton are in 58 trees on Ancestry!
I have two GedMatch numbers if any descendants want to see if we match. A029138 and T470174. My brother has done a Y chromosome test with FTDNA. His kit number is 120450. Early records are scarce so DNA matches may be the only way to figure out the relationship.
Here is some background on the Fanning Loobey Stapleton family. I’ll start with the children of John Fanning and Judith Looby. They lived in Moycarky near Thurles in Co Tipperary. John was a farmer.
Catherine Fanning born before 1830. I have no Baptism record for her as the Moycarky Church records start at 1830. Catherine came out to Australia in 1857 with her cousins, Walter and John Stapleton, on The Regina. her occupation was listed as cook. She paid a deposit for her brother Laurence Fanning and his family to come out in 1858 from Guernsey on The Mary Pleasants. Catherine was living in Surry Hills in Sydney. Her parents are listed as John and Johanna and deceased. She went on to marry George Ivory and died in Esk Queensland in 1878.
I have found the baptism records for four other children of John Fanning and Judith Looby.
Laurence (Larry) born Graigue baptised in Moycarky Parish 6 April 1830. Sponsors were Michael Looby and Mary Fanning. He married Mary Stapleton.
Ellen Fanning baptised 1 August 1832 in Moycarky Parish. Sponsors were John Donnelly and Mary Heffernan.
Mary Fanning, address Graigue, baptised in Moycarky Parish, 14 May 1834. Sponsors were Ed Donnelly and Anto Russell.
Johanna Fanning of Graigue baptised in Moycarky Parish on 3 Sept 1838. Sponsors were William Loughnane and Mary Cahill.
Laurence Fanning and his wife Mary Stapleton came out to Australia from Guernsey in 1858 on the Mary Pleasants. They arrived in Sydney from Liverpool on 16 Nov 1858 and settled first in Laidley Queensland and then in Esk Queensland. they came with three of their children: Johanna, Maria and John. John died on the voyage. Mary died in 1906 and Laurence the following year. They are buried in Esk. Laurence Fanning worked for the Queensland Rail.
I come up on Ancestry DNA tests as a match to a number of people who are descendants of Catherine Growden nee Fannon. Given the amount of DNA we share this has lead me to believe that Catherine is most likely the niece of my grgrgrandfather William Patrick Fanning.
Catherine’s parents were Patrick Fanning and Mary McGill. McGill was written on her daughter’s death record in 1938. But an earlier census record shows McGill was the beginning of a longer name. Unfortunately it is very hard to decipher the surname. It looks like McGilhlath???This census also says Patrick and Mary were married in Wisconsin. Their daughter Catherine Viola was married to Albert Orlando Growden in Ackerly Hardin Iowa in 1876 age 22. an we assume she was living their with her parents?
Patrick may have been my grgrgrandfather’s brother Patrick born in Thurles Co Tipperary in 1826.
The same people I match to are also matches with two of my close Fanning cousins.
Unfortunately I have not been able to find much information on Catherine and her parents. She was born 24 Oct 1854 in Jamesville Wisconsin and died in Riverdale Illinois on 12 May 1938. She married Albert Orlando Growden in Ackerley Hardin Iowa on 29 April 1876. She was 22 and perhaps living with her parents there.
I have looked for her parents’ marriage record and any births of siblings but have found nothing. I’ll keep looking but I am not very familiar with searching American records.
A descendant of Michael Fanning, Big Bill’s brother, is also a DNA match with a descendant of Patrick Fannon, the father of Catherine Viola.
I am hoping someone seeing this post may have some more information on Catherine, her parents and possibly siblings.
When I was in Co Tipperary recently and met up with distant Fanning relations I was told the story of John Kearney.
John was the son of Sarah Fanning and Patrick Kearney. Sarah A Fanning was the daughter of Michael fanning and Catherine Ryan of Lissaroon.
Sarah married Patrick Kearney, an electrician, from Southampton England, on 15 May 1894. Francis Dwan and Stasia Fanning were witnesses at their wedding in Inch Church in Drom parish Co Tipperary Ireland.
I have been unable to find any trace of Sarah and Patrick Kearney after the birth of John in Drom Parish in 1895. I can only assume that they died in England.
John is in the 1901 and 1911 Census records staying with his uncle and aunt, Tom and Hannah Fanning, at Lissaroon. They did not have any children of their own.
The story I was told about John Kearney, pronounced Carney, was that his uncle Tom Fanning was going to leave the Lissaroon property to him. When he found out that John wanted to go to England with his mates, he told him if he went he would not inherit. John went and Lissaroon was left to the Mullanys.
John used to come back to Ireland to visit his cousins in Dublin but never came back to Lissaroon. He died in England and is buried in a pauper’s grave.
Johanna Fanning, daughter of William Fanning and Honora McCormack of Lisaroon, married William O’Connell on Feb 11, 1850 in Inch Parish Co Tipperary.
I came across this daughter when I realised that the priests of Drom Parish were entering the residence name places in the marriage registers. These unindexed registers are now online and free at https://registers.nli.ie/. Placenames being included on a few registers is incredibly helpful for family researchers.
Knowing that couples were nearly always wed in the bride’s parish I looked for Lisaroon in the margins of the Drom mariage registers and came across Johanna from Lisaroon. As far as I can tell there has only ever been one Fanning family in Lisaroon (Lissaroon) townland in Drom Parish, so she had to be a daughter of William Fanning and Honora McCormack. Harder to find grooms as they were married in the bride’s parish.
For a number of years I have been listening to Fin Dwyer’s Irish History podcasts. I love these podcasts and highly recommend them. He has recently got Irish Newspaper Archives to sponsor his work. They offered a discount to his listeners which I took up. (Just be careful you don’t get auto renewed at the end of your discounted month as I did!)
It was such a worthwhile investment of resources and time looking through these newspapers. I found all sorts of fascinating and interesting stories and facts about my ancestors. I found a couple of extensive obituaries on the O’Connells.
Johanna (Judy) Fanning and William O’Connell lived at Clonomocogue in Co Tipperary North and had four boys:
Michael was born on 6 Mar 1851 and his sponsors were Martin Eviston and Mary Duggin.
William was born on 11 Apr 1852 and his sponsors were Tom Fanning and Honora? Connell.
Denis was born 16 Jan 1854 with William Fanning and Margaret Eviston as his sponsors. His twin John was sponsored by Pat Fanning and Honora Eviston.
Most of the O’Connells are buried in Loughmore Cemetery in Co Tipperary.
There are some O’Connell graves in St Patricks cemetery in Thurles but most are are buried in Loughmore Cemetery Co Tipperary:
I have been trying to trace the “cousins” listed as attending the funeral of Rev Martin O’Connell. They are all related, but not as directly as cousins suggests, but still a source of further connections. As Martin O’Connell was 64 when he died in 1916 his “cousins” go back quite a long way and some of the connections I’ve made can’t be conclusively proven.
Denis O’Connell DC of Loughmore was his brother. Their parents were James O’Connell and Mary Carroll. (O’Connell was written as Connell in earlier records).
James O’Connell of Oldbawn Cottage Loughmore and Martin O’Connell, Daniel O’Connell and James Eviston, all of Loughmore, are all Martin’s nephews. James the son of Mary Eviston nee O’Connell and Martin Eviston. Mary being the half sister of Denis.
Annie and Ellie are daughters of Martin’s brother Denis. Mrs James O’Connell Denis’ daughter in law. Mrs John Sheedy is Mary Sheedy nee O’Connell; Mrs Patrick Maher is Catherine Maher nee O’Connell; Mrs James Doherty is Elizabeth Doherty nee O’Connell. All daughters of Denis and Ann O’Connell.
Mr Michael O’Connell of Maryborough was the son of William O’Connell and Bridget Coffey of Castleiney and was a doctor.
A Thomas Duggan of Borris married a Julian Connell of Loughmore on 2 Mar 1829.
Tobias McGrath was the son of Michael McGrath and Mary Fanning who were married in Drom Parish 12 Feb 1861.
John Connolly was baptized 12 Aug 1864. His parents were William Connolly and Ellen O’Connell. Address given as Main St Templemore.
A Michael Lannigan was baptised in Aug 1819 in Templetuohy. His parents were John Lanigan and Bridget Connell. Sponsors were Judith Connell and James Kinahan.
On 23 Dec 1838 Michael Maher was baptised in Loughmore Parish. He was the son of Michael Maher and Mary Connell. There was also a James Connell who married Mary Maher in 1840
There was a marriage in Loughmore Parish on 9 Jun 1801 between Richard Quinn and Mary Connell witnessed by Michael Connell and Sally Quinn. In 1805 Denis Connell was baptized in Loughmore Parish. His parents were listed as Jeremiah Connell and Bridget Quinn with John Delahunty and Mary Ryan as sponsors. On 2 Feb 1826 there was a Richard Quinn married to a Mary Connell. Both from Castleiney.
D McCormack of Oola was married to Bridget O’Connell nee Coffey’s sister.
E. Fanning listed as a cousin was Edmund Fanning who married Hanoria Molloy in Littleton Parish on 11 Feb 1902. His address given as Holycross and hers as Ballybeg. He lived in Glenreigh in Holycross. Francis Dwyer and Bridget Fanning were witnesses. Edmund was born in Loughmore parish at Kilcoke on 23 Dec 1848. His parents were James Fanning and Judith Hoare. Judith Fanning nee Hoare is buried in Holycross Cemetery. She died 20 Apr, 1879, aged 68. her husband James Fanning died 2 Oct 1885 aged 77. Their other son was the Rev James J fanning who died 10 Sept 1909, aged 65. His nephew was Rev P Fogarty. The brother of this James Fanning was the Rev John Fanning buried in Loughmore Cemetery. He was born 10 Nov 1805 in Loughmore and died 13 Aug 1891 in Glenreigh Holycross.
I have not been able to figure out how Edmund Fanning of Glenrieigh and Kilcoke is related to Martin O’Connell.