Genealogy of the Fanning Family from Thurles Co Tipperary Ireland
Author: Kathleen
I have done an Ancestry DNA test and also have uploaded my test results to GedMatch. My GedMatch kit numbers are A029138 and T470174. Please contact me if we are a match.
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I have just come up as a DNA match to a descendant of the Fanning Stapleton family who came out to Australia in 1857 and 1858. They eventually settled in Esk Queensland. They had lived for some time in Guernsey in the Channel Islands.
The gentleman who matches me on Ancestry believes that John Fanning who married Judith Loobey was the brother of my grgrgrandfather William Patrick Fanning (Big Bill) of Sunnyside Bulla. He has joined my Fanning family with his on Ancestry.com. As yet I am not convinced that these two trees are connected.
I have just found the marriage record for John Fanning and Johanna Luby. They were married in an adjoining parish on 5 Feb 1825, in Boherlahan Parish. Judith Loobey came from Boherlahan and John Fanning from Moycarkey. Witnesses were John and ? Luby of Ballytarsna.
If John Fanning from Moycarkey was the son of Edmond Fanning and Judith Darmody born 1809 he would have been 16 years old when he married. This seems highly unlikely.
The only evidence or proof I have that this John Fanning who married Judith Looby is the son of Edward Fanning and Judy Darmody is my DNA match with this Fanning Stapleton descendant. But this match is quite small as we only share 8cms. This in itself could be okay but we don’t share any matches which is odd as I have two close Fanning cousins who are direct descendants on Ancestry and by rights they should have come up as matches. I have since found out that matches only come up if the people involved share at least 20 cms.
It is still quite possible that we are related but not as one of my grgrgrandfather’s brothers. On his tree he has many other Co Tipperary folk all living around Thurles where my grgrgrandfather was born.
I might add this family to my Ancestry tree and see if this produces any more matches. The offspring of John’s son Laurence and his wife Mary Stapleton were numerous. There must be many descendants of this family out there. Laurence Fanning and Mary Stapleton are in 58 trees on Ancestry!
I have two GedMatch numbers if any descendants want to see if we match. A029138 and T470174. My brother has done a Y chromosome test with FTDNA. His kit number is 120450. Early records are scarce so DNA matches may be the only way to figure out the relationship.
Here is some background on the Fanning Loobey Stapleton family. I’ll start with the children of John Fanning and Judith Looby. They lived in Moycarky near Thurles in Co Tipperary. John was a farmer.
Catherine Fanning born before 1830. I have no Baptism record for her as the Moycarky Church records start at 1830. Catherine came out to Australia in 1857 with her cousins, Walter and John Stapleton, on The Regina. her occupation was listed as cook. She paid a deposit for her brother Laurence Fanning and his family to come out in 1858 from Guernsey on The Mary Pleasants. Catherine was living in Surry Hills in Sydney. Her parents are listed as John and Johanna and deceased. She went on to marry George Ivory and died in Esk Queensland in 1878.
I have found the baptism records for four other children of John Fanning and Judith Looby.
Laurence (Larry) born Graigue baptised in Moycarky Parish 6 April 1830. Sponsors were Michael Looby and Mary Fanning. He married Mary Stapleton.
Ellen Fanning baptised 1 August 1832 in Moycarky Parish. Sponsors were John Donnelly and Mary Heffernan.
Mary Fanning, address Graigue, baptised in Moycarky Parish, 14 May 1834. Sponsors were Ed Donnelly and Anto Russell.
Johanna Fanning of Graigue baptised in Moycarky Parish on 3 Sept 1838. Sponsors were William Loughnane and Mary Cahill.
Laurence Fanning and his wife Mary Stapleton came out to Australia from Guernsey in 1858 on the Mary Pleasants. They arrived in Sydney from Liverpool on 16 Nov 1858 and settled first in Laidley Queensland and then in Esk Queensland. they came with three of their children: Johanna, Maria and John. John died on the voyage. Mary died in 1906 and Laurence the following year. They are buried in Esk. Laurence Fanning worked for the Queensland Rail.
I come up on Ancestry DNA tests as a match to a number of people who are descendants of Catherine Growden nee Fannon. Given the amount of DNA we share this has lead me to believe that Catherine is most likely the niece of my grgrgrandfather William Patrick Fanning.
Catherine’s parents were Patrick Fanning and Mary McGill. Patrick may have been my grgrgrandfather’s brother Patrick born in Thurles Co Tipperary in 1826.
The same people I match to are also matches with two of my close Fanning cousins.
Unfortunately I have not been able to find much information on Catherine and her parents. She was born 24 Oct 1854 in Jamesville Wisconsin and died in Riverdale Illinois on 12 May 1938. She married Albert Orlando Growden in Ackerley Hardin Iowa on 29 April 1876.
I have looked for her parents’ marriage record and any births of siblings but have found nothing. I’ll keep looking but I am not very familiar with searching American records.
A descendant of Michael Fanning, Big Bill’s brother, is also a DNA match with a descendant of Patrick Fannon, the father of Catherine Viola.
I am hoping someone seeing this post may have some more information on Catherine, her parents and possibly siblings.
Obituary for Rev Hugh Mockler Parish priest at Clerihan Parish Clonmel Co Tipperary.The Freemans Journal 10 Feb 1910
I have included this obit for Hugh Mockler as Tom Fanning of Lissaroon who I am related to attended and is listed as a relative. I have been unable to find any connection between him or his wife Johanna Bannon and the Mocklers.
I am curious as I have come up as a DNA match with a Mockler. Maybe someone reading this knows how the Fannings and Mocklers are related.
19 Dec 1823, Margaret of Laurance Fanning & Bridget Tierney sp: Winifred Whitten
30 Apr 1841, Catherine of John Fanning & Bridget Cummins, Carriglnane sp: William Whalen & Cath Whalen
16 Sept 1842, James of John Fanning & Catherine Connolly, Chapel Lane sp: Tim Grady & Joan Grady; twin of Michael
16 Sept 1842, Michael of John Fanning & Catherine Connolly, Chapel Lane sp: John Kennedy & Hannah Connors
21 Jan 1848, Margaret of John Fanning & Margaret Connor, Whitepark sp: Ellen Deegan
26 Jul 1861, William of Martin Fanning & Maria Slattery, Roscrea sp: James Fanning & Ellen Fanning
14 Nov 1862, John of Martin Fanning & Maria Slattery Limerick St, sp: Thomas Fanning& Kate Slattery twin of Martin
14 Nov 1862, Martin of Martin Fanning & Maria Slattery Limerick St, sp: ThomasFanning & Kate Slattery twin of John
3 Jul 1864, Eleanor of Martin Fanning & Maria Slattery sp: John & Eleanor Birmingham, twin of Maria. Civil record has the father, Martin, as a shopkeeper & farmer of Limerick St Roscrea
3 Jul 1864, Maria of Martin Fanning & Maria Slattery sp: John & Eleanor Birmingham, twin of Eleanor
13 Jul 1866 James of Martin Fanning & Maria Slattery sp: John O’Brien & AnnaFanning. Civil record is James Joseph.
9 Feb 1868, Pat of Martin Fanning & Maria Slattery sp: Philip Fanning & Anna Fanning
10 Dec 1869, Thomas of Martin Fanning & Maria Slattery sp: Jacobus McDonald & Anna McDonald
28 Jun 1873, Anne of Anne Fanning, RoscreaWorkhouse, sp: William Hayes
4 Sept 1876, Margaret of John Fanning & Honora Healy of Ballystanley Rathnavogue
When I was in Co Tipperary recently and met up with distant Fanning relations I was told the story of John Kearney.
John was the son of Sarah Fanning and Patrick Kearney. Sarah A Fanning was the daughter of Michael fanning and Catherine Ryan of Lissaroon.
Sarah married Patrick Kearney, an electrician, from Southampton England, on 15 May 1894. Francis Dwan and Stasia Fanning were witnesses at their wedding in Inch Church in Drom parish Co Tipperary Ireland.
I have been unable to find any trace of Sarah and Patrick Kearney after the birth of John in Drom Parish in 1895. I can only assume that they died in England.
John is in the 1901 and 1911 Census records staying with his uncle and aunt, Tom and Hannah Fanning, at Lissaroon. They did not have any children of their own.
Thomas Fanning & Johanna (Hanna) Fanning nee Bannon
The story I was told about John Kearney, pronounced Carney, was that his uncle Tom Fanning was going to leave the Lissaroon property to him. When he found out that John wanted to go to England with his mates, he told him if he went he would not inherit. John went and Lissaroon was left to the Mullanys.
Lissaroon Drom & Inch Parish Co Tipperary
John used to come back to Ireland to visit his cousins in Dublin but never came back to Lissaroon. He died in England and is buried in a pauper’s grave.
The man in the above photo is John Kearney in Dublin. The baby is Michael Fanning. The girl on the right is Angela who married Willie O’Sullivan. The woman holding the baby would be Ellen (Eileen) Fanning nee Bunyan and the other girls would be her daughters Pat, Margaret, Mary, Ann and Frances Fanning, the daughters of Michael and Ellen Fanning. Not sure in what order. John Kearney was a first cousin of the father Michael Fanning.
Parish of Bournea & Corbally Diocese of Killaloe Co Tipperary. Courageen a variant name for this parish.
8 Jul 1840, Andrew of Andrew Maher & Catherine Fanning, Oldcastle, sp: William & Mary Fanning
17 Jul 1844, John of Patt Carroll & Sarah Fanning, Loran sp: John Fanning & Ellen Fanning
21 May 1865, William of William Fanning & Sarah Guidera sp: William Kealy & Johanna Guidera. Parish of Cournaganeen (Bourney) Baptism record.
13 May 1883, William of Nicholas Fanning, farmer & tailor & Margaret Dunne, Corriga civil birth record baptised 13 Jun 1883.
10 Jan 1900, William Fanning, of William Fanning, farmer & Margaret Coonan, Gortnagoona, Parish of Killavinogue. Parish/district of Bourney. civil birth record.
Borrisokane Catholic Parish map Co Tipperary Ireland
My gr gr grandfather’s first child, Maria, was born in Sopwell Co Tipperary in 1852. His wife was Ann Kilkeary. So I have included any Kilkeary Baptism records that may be relevant.
7 Nov 1821, Bridget of Roger Kilcary & Cath Nolan, Sopwell sp: Tim Brennan & Cath Tynan
15 Nov 1823, Ann of Roger Kilkery & Cath Nolan, Sopwell, sp: John Gleeson & Ellen Kilkeary
11 May 1825, Sara of Patrick Toohy & Mary Connor? sp; Darby Darcy & Cath Torpey, Ballyspelin?
25 Jul 1825, Edward of Tim Brennan & Margaret Ryder Sopwell, sp: James Brennan & ? Meara. Daniel Torpey my grgrgrandfather’s mother was a Mary Ryder. Perhaps Margaret Ryder was his aunt??
12 Oct 1825, Mary of Roger Kilkeary & Cath Nolan Sopwell, sp: William White & Ellen ??
11 Oct 1827, William of Roger Kilcary & Cath Nolan, Sopwell sp: John Mulchahy & Mary Liffy
23 Dec 1827, Sara of John Rider & Eliza Griffen?
14 Jan 1828, Judith of William Cahil & Mary Torpy, Ballalina? sp: William Cahil & Cath Torpey
17 Jun 1828, Thady of Tim Brennan & Margaret Ryder, Sopwell sp: Frank Cleary & ? Ryan
May 1829, John of ? Corrigan & Ann Fogarty Sopwell, sp: John Torpy & Ellin Mahon
11 Jan 1830, Winifred of James Torphy & Honor Coglan, Feigh, sp: John Egan & Biddy Darcy
9 Feb 1830, Pat of Tim Brennan & Peggy Ryder, Sopwell, sp: James Ryder & Mary Scully
21 Feb 1833, Ellen of Roger Kilkeary & Cath Nolan, Sopwell, sp: James Liffey & Peggy Brennan
2 Jan 1834, Michael of Tim Brennan & Margaret Ryder, Sopwell, sp: Morgan Feean & Mary Thorpe. Sometimes Torpy is spelt Thorpe.
2 Aug 1834, Cath of William Cahill & Mary Thorpe, Bathylynn?? sp: Pat Thorpe & Anne Kelly
Oct? 1835, ? of Tim Brennan & Mary Thorpe sp: Roger Kilkeary? & Judy Thorpe
22 Jan 1835, Mary of William Cahill & Mary Thorpe, Ballylyna, sp: Michael Thorpe & Mary Healy
29 Oct 1837, Michael of William Cahill & Mary Torpy, Ballylina, sp: Mary Mannion
31 Oct 1837, Bridget of Tim Brennan & Peggy Ryder
23 Sept 1838, John of Tim Brennan & Peggy Ryder, Sopwell
21 Sept 1839, John? of William Cahill & Mary Torpy sp: John Kelly & ? Cahill
Jun 1841, Sarah of William Cahil & Mary Torpy, Ballalina, sp:Daniel Cahil
30 Apr 1842, Jane of Patt Torpy & Esther Pye sp: Michael Kinshaw & Mary Kennedy
5 Jul 1843, Anne of William Cahile & Mary Torpy, sp: Dan & Elle Cleary
26 Oct 1844, Frances of Pat Torpy & Esther Pyne sp: Andy Dooley & Hony Heffernan
15 Feb 1845, Daniel of William Cahil & Mary Torpy sp: Patrick Cleary & Mary Cleary
*21 Aug 1852, Maria of Daniel Torpey & Anne Kilkeary, Sopwell, sp: John Fenane & Mary White, Behamore
23 Apr 1858, Mary of William Griffin & Bridget Kilkeary, Sopwell sp: Patt Cleary and Mary Arnell?
21 Apr 1860, Thomas of William Griffon & Bridget Kilkeary, Sopwell, sp: Michael Colman & Biddy Kilkeary.
*7 Apr 1862, James of William Cavanagh (Protestant) & Margaret Torpey, Ballingarry, sp: Ellen Brennan & Michael Donagh?
14 Mar 1864, Edward of William Grffin & Bridget Kilkeary sp: Thomas Henlon & Catherine Kilkeary
23 Jun 1866, Daniel of William Griffin & Bridget Kilkeary sp: John Clear & Eliza Hough
19 Aug 1869, Mary of John Bergen & Bridget Gleeson sp: James Fanning from Roscrea & Jane Talbot.
The National Library of Ireland’s online marriage records for Borrisokane Parish are from 30 Jul 1821 to 28 Nov 1835, 21 Jan 1836-21 Jan 1844 and 2 Oct 1844 to 5 Feb 1883. This parish is also called Uskane or Uskean Parish. Up until about 1838 the records are in a very bad state, pages damaged and many entries totally illegible.
Rootsireland has marriage records for this parish from 1821-1911.
Civil marriage records are online free at irishgenealogy.ie and start from records over 75 years.
The Borrisokane Parish marriage records from 1821-1844, on the National Library of Ireland site, are damaged and unfortunately too hard to decipher.
17 Nov 1844, John Clear &Mary Ryder, wit: Thomas Hoctor & Judy Torpey
4 Sept 1849, Pat Torpy & Mary Dunn, wit: Peter Griffen
1 Oct 1855, James Madden & Bridget Dean wit: Joe Torpy & Mary Cork?
9 Feb 1860, Thomas McCormack & Margaret Brennan wit: Thomas Kelly & Honora Torpy
